[VOTE] [Bylaw Amendment] Do not require interface suffix on future PSR Interfaces
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Michael Cullum
Sep 4, 2016, 12:26:50 PM9/4/16
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Hi all,
The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are unable to do so not being voting members.
Status Quo: The bylaw states that all interfaces in PSRs published by the PHP FIG must have the interface name suffix of 'Interface' e.g. `LoggerInterface`
Change: The proposed change is that we no longer require that interfaces are suffixed by 'Interface' so `ContainerInterface` would become `Container`
Arguments for/against and [two week] discussion: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-discussion
Pull request for bylaw change: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC. Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1 (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
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-1 for Composer - this is change for the sake of change IMO, I'd rather
people spent time on more productive discussions :)
On 04/09/2016 18:26, Michael Cullum wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are
> unable to do so not being voting members.
>
> *Status Quo:* The bylaw states that all interfaces in PSRs published by
> *Pull request for bylaw change*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
> <mailto:php-fig+u...@googlegroups.com>.
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people spent time on more productive discussions :)
On 04/09/2016 18:26, Michael Cullum wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are
> unable to do so not being voting members.
>
> the PHP FIG must have the interface name suffix of 'Interface' e.g.
> `LoggerInterface`
> *Change:* The proposed change is that we no longer require that
> `LoggerInterface`
> interfaces are suffixed by 'Interface' so `ContainerInterface` would
> become `Container`
>
> Arguments for/against and [two
> week] *discussion*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-discussion
> become `Container`
>
> Arguments for/against and [two
> *Pull request for bylaw change*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
>
> Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or
> not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any
> current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP
> community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name
> interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
>
> Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC.
> Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1
> (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
>
> --
> Many thanks,
> Michael Cullum
>
> Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or
> not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any
> current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP
> community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name
> interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
>
> Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC.
> Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1
> (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
>
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> Many thanks,
> Michael Cullum
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regards,
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Chris Tankersley
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-1 from Sculpin.
As others said, this is just change for change's sake.
-Chris
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On 9/4/16 09:26, Michael Cullum wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are
> unable to do so not being voting members.
>
> *Status Quo:* The bylaw states that all interfaces in PSRs published by
> *Pull request for bylaw change*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
> <mailto:php-fig+u...@googlegroups.com>.
On 9/4/16 09:26, Michael Cullum wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are
> unable to do so not being voting members.
>
> the PHP FIG must have the interface name suffix of 'Interface' e.g.
> `LoggerInterface`
> *Change:* The proposed change is that we no longer require that
> `LoggerInterface`
> interfaces are suffixed by 'Interface' so `ContainerInterface` would
> become `Container`
>
> Arguments for/against and [two
> week] *discussion*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-discussion
> become `Container`
>
> Arguments for/against and [two
> *Pull request for bylaw change*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
>
> Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or
> not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any
> current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP
> community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name
> interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
>
> Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC.
> Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1
> (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
>
> --
> Many thanks,
> Michael Cullum
>
> Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or
> not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any
> current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP
> community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name
> interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
>
> Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC.
> Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1
> (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
>
> --
> Many thanks,
> Michael Cullum
>
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On 04/09/2016 18:26, Michael Cullum wrote:
> *Pull request for bylaw change*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
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On 04/09/2016 18:26, Michael Cullum wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are
> unable to do so not being voting members.
>
> *Status Quo:* The bylaw states that all interfaces in PSRs published by
>
> The PSR-11 Editors have requested we open this vote for them as they are
> unable to do so not being voting members.
>
> the PHP FIG must have the interface name suffix of 'Interface' e.g.
> `LoggerInterface`
> *Change:* The proposed change is that we no longer require that
> `LoggerInterface`
> interfaces are suffixed by 'Interface' so `ContainerInterface` would
> become `Container`
>
> Arguments for/against and [two
> week] *discussion*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-discussion
> become `Container`
>
> Arguments for/against and [two
> *Pull request for bylaw change*: http://bit.ly/interface-suffix-pr
>
> Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or
> not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any
> current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP
> community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name
> interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
>
> Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC.
> Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1
> (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
>
> --
> Many thanks,
> Michael Cullum
>
> Note: This will only affect future PSR production (of PSRs in draft or
> not yet through an entrance vote) so will not break or change any
> current PSRs. It is also not a standard or recommendation for the PHP
> community or member projects, but an internal bylaw on how we name
> interfaces in our own interfaces in PSRs.
>
> Voting will close in two weeks on the 18th September at 23:59 UTC.
> Voting is available to voting members and may be cast as +1 (For), -1
> (Against) or 0 (Abstain).
>
> --
> Many thanks,
> Michael Cullum
>
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Zitat von Michael Cullum <m...@michaelcullum.com>:
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I've been advocating for this since forever
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(We polled our contributors some years ago; particularly amongst
non-native English speakers, coming up with reasonable names for
interfaces was often difficult, and appending an Interface suffix
simplified that for many authors.)
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(We polled our contributors some years ago; particularly amongst
non-native English speakers, coming up with reasonable names for
interfaces was often difficult, and appending an Interface suffix
simplified that for many authors.)
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(If you dont like interface in your project, `use ContainerInterface as Container`)
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I propose to re-vote :)
Really.
Time for small applications was gone.
If you plan for your code to extensible, you must free clean names for the interfaces. Classes are just implementations, their names doesn't make sense at all. We must to work only with interfaces ONLY (every class always has his interface even it didn't defined expliciltly). Binding Interface => Implementation can be configerable in configs (DI binding etc)!
Think again please!
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