Exporting syllabification

[Philip Combiths]

Hello, I am interested in including the Target Syllable and Actual Syllable tiers when exporting a session as CSV. I am able to export the alignment by adding "Tier:Alignment" to the list of export columns, but I haven't found how to call upon and export the syllable tiers. Is this possible?

Thank you very much,

-Philip

[Yvan Rose]

Hi Phil, 

I don't think this is possible, very sorry. We are currently exporting this information using mini graphs representing syllabification and alignment in Excel format, something incompatible with the CSV format. 

However, if you do a Phones query and export your results using the Listing by Session using the option represented in the attached screen shot, you will have a textual representation of syllabification and alignment within your report, something maybe you can work with?

Please let me know if (some of) this helps!

Yvan

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[Philip Combiths]

No apologies needed! Phon does so much already :) And I think I can get what we need using the workaround you suggested.

Thank you,

Phil

On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-7, Yvan Rose wrote:

Hi Phil, 

I don't think this is possible, very sorry. We are currently exporting this information using mini graphs representing syllabification and alignment in Excel format, something incompatible with the CSV format. 

However, if you do a Phones query and export your results using the Listing by Session using the option represented in the attached screen shot, you will have a textual representation of syllabification and alignment within your report, something maybe you can work with?

Please let me know if (some of) this helps!

Yvan

On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Philip Combiths <philco...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello, I am interested in including the Target Syllable and Actual Syllable tiers when exporting a session as CSV. I am able to export the alignment by adding "Tier:Alignment" to the list of export columns, but I haven't found how to call upon and export the syllable tiers. Is this possible?

Thank you very much,

-Philip

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[Greg J. Hedlund]

Hello Phillip,

Not sure if this what you need but you can export a copy of the IPA tiers which include constituent type tags using:

Tier: IPA Target Syllabified

or

Tier: IPA Actual Syllabified

as a CSV export column.

E.g.,

Speaker:Name	Orthography	IPA Target	IPA Actual	Segment	Notes	IPA Target Syllabified
Christine	[what do you sing] [at birthday parties? .]	[ˈwʌ̃t * ˈjuː ˈsɪŋ] [ˈæt ˈbʌɹθˌdeɪ ˈpɑ͡u⁴ɹtiːz]	[* * * *] [* * *]	000:00.508-000:03.320		[ˈw:Oʌ̃:Nt:C *:U ˈj:Ouː:D ˈs:Oɪ:Nŋ:C] [ˈæ:Nt:C ˈb:Oʌ:Nɹ:Cθ:Cˌd:Oe:Dɪ:D ˈp:Oɑ͡u⁴:Nɹ:Ct:Oiː:Nz:C]

Cheers,

-Greg

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[Philip Combiths]

This is right along the lines of what I was thinking of, thank you very much Greg.

My follow-up question (and I might be pushing my luck here) is this: Is Phon capable of importing syllabification (in the IPA Target/Actual Syllabified format or some other format) alongside orthography and transcription tiers from a CSV file?

Thank you,

Philip

-Greg

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[Yvan Rose]

Thank you, Greg, for pointing these options out to us. 

An idea: maybe we could list them as part of our valid column names within the Export-to-CSV interface.

Cheers,

Yvan 

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[Greg Hedlund]

Hey Philip,

On 07/30/19 20:40, Philip Combiths wrote:

This is right along the lines of what I was thinking of, thank you very much Greg.

My follow-up question (and I might be pushing my luck here) is this: Is Phon capable of importing syllabification (in the IPA Target/Actual Syllabified format or some other format) alongside orthography and transcription tiers from a CSV file?

Yes - if you use the new 'Syllabified' columns in your CSV import instead of the plain IPA columns the syllabification information will also be imported.

Cheers,

-Greg

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[Philip Combiths]

This is great, thank you both so much.

-Philip

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