Fall of an Islamic scholar?

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Ahmed J U Khan

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Apr 10, 2021, 4:30:08 PM4/10/21
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Sorry about the fall of Maulana Mamunul H, fall of a great star in the long due Islamic movement that was well underway, increasingly gathering strength and popularity in the Muslim majority Bangladesh. It seems there was a mistake committed, a blunder done, a moral lapse slipped into. But it is very true that to err is human and we're all human beings susceptible to slight or serious deviations and evil temptations all the time. Most of us have our own Achilles' heel. What the famed and famous Maulana may have done is being resorted to by the countless on a daily basis, especially in hasina's fascist and Hinduized Bangladesh since 2009. But, alas, in the present case it is none other than a great religious scholar who hails from a great religious family. May Allah the Almighty and Most Merciful forgive him, and help him repair and recover from this damage of difficult pain and anguish. At the same time, I pray that the the great Islamic movement by all like-minded leaders and parties gathers more steam and continues with fervor, devotion and dedication in order to steady and anchor Bangladesh as a Muslim Bangladdesh with a healthy Islamic bias and balance. Aameen!    

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Frankly, I am totally confused. Capt Shahid, in an interview with Kanak Sarwar, says the whole episode was pre-arranged. The Maulana was arrested and taken to the resort to stage the scandal. But the Maulana and others come up with various statements at various times, sometimes disjointed. There was a pathetic interview of the Maulana, apparently taken after waking him up at his residence at night. To me, the Maulana did nothing wrong, but being such a high-profile person, he could have been a little more discreet and prudent. The Hefazat seems still defending him but it needs to come up with strong statements, and counter actions, if need be. That is the problem with Hefazat. It flares to the extent of blinding others, only to be extinguished soon afterwards. Perhaps, strong leadership crisis or falling prey to the extended carrots.  

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Subject: Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Fall of an Islamic scholar?
 
Well said brother Ahmed JU Khan. 

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 3:30 PM Ahmed J U Khan <juk...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry about the fall of Maulana Mamunul H, fall of a great star in the long due Islamic movement that was well underway, increasingly gathering strength and popularity in the Muslim majority Bangladesh. It seems there was a mistake committed, a blunder done, a moral lapse slipped into. But it is very true that to err is human and we're all human beings susceptible to slight or serious deviations and evil temptations all the time. Most of us have our own Achilles' heel. What the famed and famous Maulana may have done is being resorted to by the countless on a daily basis, especially in hasina's fascist and Hinduized Bangladesh since 2009. But, alas, in the present case it is none other than a great religious scholar who hails from a great religious family. May Allah the Almighty and Most Merciful forgive him, and help him repair and recover from this damage of difficult pain and anguish. At the same time, I pray that the the great Islamic movement by all like-minded leaders and parties gathers more steam and continues with fervor, devotion and dedication in order to steady and anchor Bangladesh as a Muslim Bangladdesh with a healthy Islamic bias and balance. Aameen!    

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Despite some hasina BAL fuel and framing added to the fire, the fire itself seems to have been started by the victim, a great man, who is alleged to have taken his “half wife” to the resort and made the entry in the name of his “full” wife left at home. Problem started from there when the hasina BAL guys must have been informed by their agents working in the resort. The ball of intrigue and conspiracy got kicked and kept rolling with a mix of truths, untruths and falsehoods. The drama continues to be staged to the detriment of the great Islamic scholar who is far superior and way above the evil Modi-fied awami terrorists and Hinduized India loving anti Islam pro fascist secularists. Down with them. 
Secondly, sensing some inconsistencies on the part of the great Maulana, Hefazat has started distancing itself from him, saying the organization would not take the responsibility of one’s personal moral slips and lapses, if any, adding that one leader’s absence or removal would not create any leadership vacuum. Maybe there is going to be a clear announcement soon from the great organization. 

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I'm not sure if the title "fall of the Islamic scholar" is  accurate here .  Rather his stand has awakened the self identity of lots of Muslims. 

It's a public relations hit for him personally as he has failed to unmask and counter the Awami-Indian's hypocrisy.   Today even some Awami local leaders  are supporer of Mominul Haque and were kicked out of AL.  The episode of Mominul spending time with his 2nd wife had no relevance in protesting Modi's communal presence in Bangladesh's golden jubilee that had desecrated Bangladesh's independence spirit.  We would  not have invited Hitler to represent Germany if he were alive. So in what moral stand we can support India's communal hate monger in chief? 


#1 What Mominul has done was nothing illegal.  It's nothing wrong to spend time with his own wife.  The whole issue was very personal between his wives and him .  
 Mominul should have pointed out that the matter was totally legal and Islamic (to be with 2nd wife) , unlike the Awami people, shusil people who regularly spend nights with women in  extramarital fornication that was unmasked in Papiya sex ring.   Awami high ups such as Obaidul Kader, Nanok,  Taposh, were seen as clients  of Papiya. Did people forget  Hasina's extramarital affairs with Mrinal Kanti Dash, while treating her husband Wazed Mia like a servant ?  

#2 It showed that there is nothing illegal , noting criminal, no immoral  that this fascist AL would not do to cling on to their illegal power, even exploiting most personal matter, even breaking laws,  using extralegal means such letting its terror league to attack personal bedroom and using DGFI to  leak and doctor personal conversations.  

#3 The privacy rights, women rights  go down the window if it is an  Islamic person or any opposition dissenting individuals.  If an Islamic person expresses his political view, or protests then he is portrayed as Jongi , as  extremist.  As if they don't have the same right to have their say on state matter.  People are aware of these sypocracies. Hefajot is helping to unmask the Awami, the Indian dalal Susils . They are in fact communal against Islamic people. The Awami-Indians are communal and hateful against the Islamic people. Hefajot is revealing that awami-Indian truth to the people . 

#4  Hefajot needs to be more smart in its narrations. Hefajot needs to articulate the current anti-Islamic trend and practices in the demonizing and depriving  of Islamic people  from exercising their rights to have their say in social and state matters.  They should talk about current anti-Islmic communal trends & practices in Bangladesh politics and media establishment.  They should not show anger but totally non-violent protest and movement.  The need to show victimhood, how they are attacked by the Awami terror league, how they are discriminated against and persecuted for simply talking about Islamic values and sentiment. 


#5 Because of Awami-Indian unfair, communal , discriminatory and unjust persecution of Islamic people, more support is growing for them. In Bangladesh's history, Islamic platforms never got more than 6-7% of seats.  BNP is also totally absent and clueless due to govt oppressing and its own internal incompetencies. The political  vacuum never goes unfilled for long.  I'm afraid Hefajot is capturing this vacuum.  The Awami-Indian nightmare may come true if Islamic platforms come to power in  a revolution.   The US never thought of Mullah taking over in Iran when they took out the de Mosaddek.  Shiya majority were persecuted for a long time in Iraq. Now they rule Iraq.  


/rashed Anam



Ahmed J U Khan

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In a Muslim majority country or in any country wherever there is a Muslim community, big or small, Muslims have every political right to do politics in the name of Islam. Atheist and Hindutva secularism, faulty and fake and defective by all definitions, must be curbed and contained. It shamelessly promotes all other religions and demotes Islam at any cost. So, religious parties and movements of all kinds and shades and hues ought to be supported to strike a healthy balance in the face of fundamentalist and fanatical Modi-fied Hindu nationalism infecting Bangladesh like Covid-19. Atheist and Hindutva secularism must not be allowed to go unbounded. Let there be an alliance of all religious parties with both short term and long term goals to curtail the vicious spread of fake and faulty atheistical secularism. 

My problem with the Islamic parties is that I notice some kind of inconsistency or hypocrisy with them. On the one hand, they are critical of the hasina culture of statues and the Qadianis and the Modi visit and the police beating and killing of them only. On the other hand, they are also full of praise for hasina and Sheikh Mujib--"Manoniyo" and "Bangabandhu" and so on. Did they forget the killings and famine and one party BAKSAL by Sheikh M? They never directly attack hasina and her widespread culture of rape, corruption, casino, oppression, repression, persecution and discrimination. They never criticize the fascist hasina regime for vote rigging and illegally holding on to power. They never demand for the regime to go. Shame on them. But as a Muslim I suport them too.  

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 8:59 PM Taj Hashmi <tajh...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear All:
Sorry to disagree with Dr Jalal Khan's main argument which affirms Mufti mamunul Haq and his party/group members as something noble, Islamic, and productive. Hefazat is an old ally of the Awami league. The Khilafat Majlis is integral to the outfit. And we know Khilafat Majlis and Awami league signed a pre-electoral alliance to establish Sharia and enact Blasphemy Law on 23 rd December 2006. The elections did not take place, instead General Moin took over on 11th January 2007. The Agreement was signed by Awami League's Abdul Jalil and Khilafat Majlis's Maulana Abdur Rab Yusufi.

The same people belonging to the Deoband/Qaumi steam once glorified the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan in 1996. Remember, Mufti Fazlul Haq Amini  once chanted the slogan, "Amra shobai Taliban, Bangla hobe Afghan"! The Qaumi ulama in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh follow Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani's breakaway faction of the Jamiat ul-Ulama-i-Hind, called Jamiat ul-Ulama-i-Islam, which unlike the JUH (which was pro-Congress, pro-Gandhi and anti-Jinnah) followed Jinnah and believed in Pakistan. However, in the 1990s, they spearheaded the Taliban Movement from Pakistan. 

Again, the Hefazat represents a bunch of dishonest (literally) and opportunist ulama, who first emerged from "nowhere" in May 2013 demanding the arrest of atheist Islamophobic bloggers and the Blasphemy Law. They came to Dhaka in thousands, from Chittagong, Rajshahi, and Sylhet. They stayed overnight at Motijheel (WHY?!) and Hasina's BGB and police gunned down around 300 Hefazat Supporters. Indian helicopters took bodies to Agartala and burnt them to hide the massacre. And then what happened. Mufti Shafi, after being HEAVILY bribed by Hasina, changed tone, called her a friend, and whatnot!

And, this time this rogue Mamunul Haq also came up with a One-Point Agenda and came out on the street. He said he had nothing against Hasina, but Modi must NOT come to Bangladesh. Then 20 unarmed supporters got killed. And this shameless man went to Sonargaon resort, with a woman. And, the rest is history.

I DON'T believe in any Islamic Revolution. As a student of Islamic History, I know all Islamic Revolutions so far have created anarchy and bloodshed. The Wahhabi, Iranian, Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS are examples in this regard.

Please watch this video interview, where I have briefly evaluated Mamunul Haq: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpVrotGVGhU
Thanks! 
Taj Hashmi

rashed Anam

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Dear Mr. Hashmi,

"And this shameless man went to Sonargaon resort, with a woman" 
Putting aside however rightly/wrongly  he got married as this is a private matter between his wives and him, Why is it shameless about spending a night with his own wife ?  Are you not falling into the trap/practice of mixing very personal matters to delegitimize his stands/work ?  We should be able to separate the personal deficit/imperfection(most of us have it)  from the views/politics he preaches as one can err in practicing Islam but that does not make what he preached was wrong.  

Do we question, deny  & denigrate  the rights of  a group of  journalists or lawyers or engineers or  communists  to have their  say  in expressing their views on national matters the same way we do with the Islamic people  ?  So why use a different standard when Islamic people exercise their rights ( All Awami-Indians do) ?  

Are we not ourselves being communal/biased  if we oppose/deny the rights , civil liberty and norms to Islamic people just because they are Islamic  ( All Awami-Indian Shusil do ) ?  

What we should focus on rather , IMO, is if they are being democratic or not. If they are within the framework of democracy/constitution, then what's the problem with whatever political prophecies they preach?  To accept it or to  reject it is totally up to the people.  People like yourself have 100% right to counter them politically on their views/policies, but cannot deny them their right to have that view. 

Like the Awami league, Iran is a coercive regime (most middle eastern regimes are) . If Iran were free and democratic and the people of Iran wanted full embrace of Islamic laws , then it's their choice. Indonesia has strong Islamic laws and it's 100 times more democratic than Iran. Their media/Shusil don't call them extremists/backward etc. 

I do totally agree with you that a lot of  Islamic groups like Islami Oikko jot etc are Awami pet groups and not true Islamic values as it supports GOOM-KHUN dictator Hasina. 


Speaking up for the sanctity of Muslim indentity, for Islamic values and sentiments does not necessarily mean that people want Islamic Sharia law based country or relvolution.  That is a huge jump.  It only means that they have a strong view on some issues and simply exercising their rights to express their views.  What to do with those issues are up to the freely elected legitimate representatives of the people . But disenfranchising them from their rightful political space runs the risk of pushing them to be extremist.  

Best Regards
rashed Anam




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My random thoughts:
1. We want a government which has Islam as the state religion; no human being is perfect, no Muslims are perfect but this will allow better social and moral ethos, females don't have to wear Hijab if they don't want to but at least  they will wear decent dress, Islamic studies should be part of School curriculum, Madrasah's should have all cotemporary subjects so once graduating from there students are free to choose whatever they want to study. If we declare  Bangladesh as a Islamic Republic - the current Islamophobic people and world will eat us alive - but we do have to uphold our Islamic identity.

2. Not to trust media - Dr Taj Hashmi was giving example of Islamic revolution in Iran as creating anarchy and bloodshed, my young adult life was in Iran working as a doctor, I worked there for 10 years in the 80's and 90"s and we found that most people were happy despite the pressure and carnage of the Iraq - Iran war. People who were addicted to the superficially successful life during Shah's time of drink and dance and AL style progress were against it, they are still against i - those who have migrated to the West are great misfits here. Iran's drinking and dancing was not akin to Drink an dance in the Western world. Whatever mayhem they cause in other countries, they themselves are very conservative and family oriented actually. Many of my colleagues and junior doctors take time off or a break in their career to serve and take care of their ailing parents. Immigrant Iranians don't get much respect for speaking against Islam and Iran and looking for a free life. That brings me to one of my sadness - Iran with its rich history and culture had embraced Sunni Islam when we conquered Iran - all their poets and philosophers - Rumi, Sheikh Saadi, Imam Gazzaley were Sunni, I wish they had not converted to Shia during Saffavid dynasty rule.

3. Allama Mamunul Haque has great oratory power, when most people are unhappy with current regime and absolutely hated Modi coming to our country in March, everyone was quiet - only he and Hefazot spoke against it - 21 young people became Shaheed in this process; I don't think he will go to relax with his first wife or second wife to relax in a resort. As soon as I heard it' I said how cunning and devil is Sheikh Hasina - how ornately the goons have organised this to humiliate Maunul Haque and for him lose credibility. Allah has created men and women differently, physical temptation a bigger problem for men than for women - even if his second wife thing is true and if it is true, I obviously don't like it, most women wont - still he is far better then most AL men who are sugar daddies and have a regular harem of women. I still don't understand the difference between different Islamic parties but they have a code of Conduct. The few Jamate Islami friends we have are people of strong moral character. I hope they and BNP and rest of the country unite to oust this fascist government. 50 years have gone, in another 20 years these people will reduce us to worthless superficial people or will make us so weak that India will make us the next Rohingya's in our  own country.

Regards,

Fatima


Dr Fatima Ashrafi


On Sunday, 11 April 2021, 10:59:20 am AEST, Taj Hashmi <tajh...@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear All:
Sorry to disagree with Dr Jalal Khan's main argument which affirms Mufti mamunul Haq and his party/group members as something noble, Islamic, and productive. Hefazat is an old ally of the Awami league. The Khilafat Majlis is integral to the outfit. And we know Khilafat Majlis and Awami league signed a pre-electoral alliance to establish Sharia and enact Blasphemy Law on 23 rd December 2006. The elections did not take place, instead General Moin took over on 11th January 2007. The Agreement was signed by Awami League's Abdul Jalil and Khilafat Majlis's Maulana Abdur Rab Yusufi.

The same people belonging to the Deoband/Qaumi steam once glorified the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan in 1996. Remember, Mufti Fazlul Haq Amini  once chanted the slogan, "Amra shobai Taliban, Bangla hobe Afghan"! The Qaumi ulama in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bangladesh follow Maulana Shabbir Ahmad Usmani's breakaway faction of the Jamiat ul-Ulama-i-Hind, called Jamiat ul-Ulama-i-Islam, which unlike the JUH (which was pro-Congress, pro-Gandhi and anti-Jinnah) followed Jinnah and believed in Pakistan. However, in the 1990s, they spearheaded the Taliban Movement from Pakistan. 

Again, the Hefazat represents a bunch of dishonest (literally) and opportunist ulama, who first emerged from "nowhere" in May 2013 demanding the arrest of atheist Islamophobic bloggers and the Blasphemy Law. They came to Dhaka in thousands, from Chittagong, Rajshahi, and Sylhet. They stayed overnight at Motijheel (WHY?!) and Hasina's BGB and police gunned down around 300 Hefazat Supporters. Indian helicopters took bodies to Agartala and burnt them to hide the massacre. And then what happened. Mufti Shafi, after being HEAVILY bribed by Hasina, changed tone, called her a friend, and whatnot!

And, this time this rogue Mamunul Haq also came up with a One-Point Agenda and came out on the street. He said he had nothing against Hasina, but Modi must NOT come to Bangladesh. Then 20 unarmed supporters got killed. And this shameless man went to Sonargaon resort, with a woman. And, the rest is history.

I DON'T believe in any Islamic Revolution. As a student of Islamic History, I know all Islamic Revolutions so far have created anarchy and bloodshed. The Wahhabi, Iranian, Taliban, Al Qaeda and ISIS are examples in this regard.

Please watch this video interview, where I have briefly evaluated Mamunul Haq: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpVrotGVGhU
Thanks! 
Taj Hashmi


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ধন্যবাদ সবাইকে। হাসিনা, তার মন্ত্রীরা, আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী মামুনুল হককে নিয়ে লেগেছে। সংসদে হাসিনার নিম্নরুচির জঘন্য বক্তব্য ও মসজিদ-মাদ্রাসায় আগুনের হুমকী অত্যন্ত ঘৃণ্য। ২০০৯ সাল থেকে এই অবৈধ ফ্যাসিবাদী সরকার অপরাধের পাহাড় গড়েছে।      

আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনী হাসিনা ও তার মন্ত্রীদের, আওয়ামী নেতানেত্রীদের, তাদের ছাত্র-যুব নেতানেত্রীদের সন্ত্রাস, হত্যা-নির্যাতন-নিপীড়ন, সীমাহীন লুটপাট, ব্যক্তিগত অবৈধ ও অনৈতিক ভোগ বিলাসের সংবাদ নিয়ে তাদেরকে আদালতে সোপর্দ করে না কেন? আইনশৃঙ্খলা বাহিনীর আনেক কর্মচারী কত হত্যা, নির্যাতন, ধর্ষণ, লুটপাট ও নানা জঘন্য অপরাধ করছে, সেগুলি কি? 

আমার মনে হয় বর্তমান সরকার অপসারণ করে একটি দেশপ্রেমিক সরকার বসানোর কাজে আমাদের বেশী মনযোগী হওয়া দরকার।   



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Subject: Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Fall of an Islamic scholar?

Ahmed J U Khan

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The great and glorious Maulana Mamunul H has convincingly and compellingly and incontrovertibly cleared his name in his latest live statement. 


Let all Islamic forces stay united and march forward. 
Let all anti-Islamic, pro-Indian, pro-Hindu, pro-hasina, pro-BAL, pro-secularist, pro-Modi, and pro-atheist destructive forces be down and destroyed.    

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After reviewing a number of YouTube posts, it looks like this man is a Fotka Moulana... (Fotka Molbi) ... 

How a person becomes even a good Muslim (forget about being a Maulana) with  dishonesty in practical life?

In Hotel Log: Wife's name is Amena Tauyab (First wife's name)
In the room the lady is: Jhorna ... if she is a wife, why he did not write her name in the Hotel log? (told a lie and hid the truth - both are Kabira gunah)

He is also a very irresponsible person... while 20 of his party people died a few days back, this man went to a Resort with his second wife... Why he could not tell his wife that it was not a good time?

I like to see proper punishment for this man... and I DO NOT like to see another Maulana like this guy. No help will happen to Islam by people like him.





On Sunday, April 11, 2021, 01:48:44 PM EDT, Ahmed J U Khan <juk...@gmail.com> wrote:





The great and glorious Maulana Mamunul H has convincingly and compellingly and incontrovertibly cleared his name in his latest live statement. 

https://youtu.be/ap3m4kJQxfQ

Let all Islamic forces stay united and march forward. 
Let all anti-Islamic, pro-Indian, pro-Hindu, pro-hasina, pro-BAL, pro-secularist, pro-Modi, and pro-atheist destructive forces be down and destroyed.    

On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 5:23 AM Outlook Team <zog...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
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rashed Anam

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How come there was no outcry of  Awami attacks on Mominul Haq in his hotel room? 
How come there was no outcry for such illegal, criminal attacks by the Awami terror league in one's private bedroom, regardless of one's opinion about his private matter or public stand ? 

How come such unprecedented violent attacks on someone's private hotel room is being tolerated and ignored ? What implications will be for the future of the country now that the violence on the political opposition in the privacy of his bedroom has become a standard and tolerated culture ? 


The Awami-Indian yellow media outlets like Prothom-Alo, the Daily Star, Awami-Indian  Ku-shil  ( like  Shariyar Kabir, Muntasir Mamun, Jafor Iqbal,  Anisul Haq, Sultana Kamal,  Motiur Rahman, Mahfuz Anam, Mejbah Kamal, Moja babu etc.)  are totally mum and  not a single word on such criminal political culture ? 

Should they also not be held liable for making Bangladesh a  Banana republic police state ? 

/rashed Anam

rashed Anam

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Mr. Aleem , 
Are you a FOTKA man? 
Are you 100% perfect ? Have you been dishonest in your entire life? Do you think some dishonest episodes in your life have made you a FOTKA/Failed/VONDO man? 

According to your own logic , if a Moulana is dishonest in even one issue of his life , it automatically invalidates all his true services to the Muslim Ummah. His calls for Islamic values and teaching become  invalide ? As if they are related ? 

Personal shortcoming does not make him invalide , it makes him an imperfect human being.  I still don't know what dishonesty you're talking about ?  Did he say anything to the people that he never had a 2nd wife before this news became public?  
Yes, it appears that he  hid his 2nd marriage from his wife. Very unethical and unjust thing to do to his 1st wife.  But that's between him and his wives . He did not make any public statement that later turned out to be false.  Did he? 

Bill Clinton did much worse things , sex outside of marriage.  So did Trump and many others public figures .  Jefferson had fathered a son with a slave. Does that mean all the work of Jefferson, Clinton became invalid ? 

So why hold Dari-Tupi in different standards? 

I think as society  WE HAVE ingrained  BIAS/COMMUNAL attitudes toward  Dari-Tupi/Moulana! !  Lets face it. 

rashed Anam







fatima ashrafi

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Salam alykum,

I agree with Rashed Anam's comments. I think all leaders at some point in time have fallen to this temptation but I honestly believe that  just after all these processions and death of 20 young people MMH will indulge in relaxation and pleasure at a resort knowing he is a well known figure and much liked by many people. I, like Captain Shahid would like to believe it is a conspiracy and probably the goons were threatening the lives of his children or something like that - it sounds like a cheap detective novel but Iblees SH and the goons are known to resort to very low quality things. Her recent speech at the Parliament was atrocious and not befitting a head of state. If MMH is out of picture who do we have to lead this unfortunate nation of ours?

Regards,

Fatima

Dr Fatima Ashrafi

Rezaul Karim

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হেফাজত ইসলামের শীর্ষ নেতাদের এক  আলোচনায় মামুনুল হকের দায়িত্বপূর্ণ পদ  বহাল রেখে তার প্রতি প্রতি পূর্ণ সমর্থন জানিয়েছেন।এর কারণ হিসেবে সংগঠনটির নেতারা বলছেন, মি. হকের বিরুদ্ধে বিতর্কটি তৈরি করেছে সরকার নিজে।

RANU CHOWDHURY

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Good move. I also watched a video, forwarded by Dr. Jalal Khan, in which Maulana Mominul Haq clarified his position. I think the Maulana was also responsible for some of the confusion and controversy created earlier. Let's hope the Hefazat stick together and not fall prey to intimidations of the fascists. Frankly, I think this is the only opposition force in Bangladesh today. 

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Subject: Re: {PFC-Friends} Re: {NA Bangladeshi Community} Fall of an Islamic scholar?
 

Rezaul Karim

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"হেফাজতের মধ্যে একটা রাজনীতির প্রবণতা দেখা যাচ্ছে। কারণ সংগঠনটির নেতাদের অনেকেই সরকার বিরোধী রাজনৈতিক দলের অন্তর্গত। সংগঠনটিকে ঘিরে বাংলাদেশের ধর্মভিত্তিক দল ও শক্তিগুলোর একটি ঐক্যবদ্ধ শক্তি হিসেবে আবির্ভূত হবার সম্ভাবনা আছে, যদি তারা সেটা চায়।"

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