LIST OF BARONETCIES

[S. S.]

While this matter may not entirely be related to the peerage, I think it would be an interesting thing to explore 

I have recently taken an interest in recording the total number of baronetcies (including their name, territorial designation, place of creation, date of creation, extinction or dormancy) in an effort to record every baronetcy ever created. At present, I have consulted Cracroft's Peerage for the listing regarding extinct or dormant baronetcies and am actively cross referencing them to current records to ensure accuracy of the present state of those baronetcies. I did wonder however if anyone has ever attempted to record the entirely of the baronetage (extinct, dormant or extant) in an orderly format. If anyone has any such documentation that would be most useful. I have thus far compiled over 3000 extinct or dormant baronetcies excluding extant baronetcies. I shall add extant baronetcies at a later date. 

The following is a sample of how I record these baronetcies (in a format similar to Cracroft's peerage)

1.       Abdy, of Albyns, co. Essex (created 9^th June 1660 - extinct 2^nd April 1759)

2.       Abdy, of Felix Hall, co. Essex (created 14^th July 1641 - extinct 1868)

3.       Abdy, of Moores, co. Essex (created 1660 - extinct 1662)

Acton, of the City of London (created 30^th May 1629 - extinct 22^nd January 1651)

If anyone should be interested in this endeavor do let me know. 

[Richard R]

Hi SS. Suggest you take a look at Leigh Rayment's work on baronetcies. This is as complete and accurate a list of ALL baronetcies that I have seen. Here's the weblink:

https://www.maltagenealogy.com/LeighRayment/baronetage.htm

[dpth...@gmail.com]

I've actually been compiling genealogies of all the baronetcies. So far I have done all the ones created through 1850. (I have paused for a while to pursue some other projects.)

The genealogies comprise some 2500 pages of a Word document, not counting the genealogies of Baronetcies which are online on my website.

You mention Cracroft as a source, which I have not used, so I wanted to make sure that you were aware that Cokayne's The Complete Baronetage is available online. Here is one page with links to all the volumes.

https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/001597858

[S. S.]

Why thank you for directing me to Cockayne’s work. I myself have collected over 100 digital volumes of Burke’s Debrett’s, Lodge’s and other genealogical publications so I’ll duly include this with the other works I have collected. I have kept myself busy with the genealogies of the more older baronetcies so your work on baronetcies 1850 onwards seem very interesting. Might I ask what website you are referring to?

[dpth...@gmail.com]

The main page is http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha.htm

where you can find certain British and Irish ducal families in different areas of the page.

Then there is a supplementary page with many generloagies of many other British families.

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/gotha/gotha/gotha4.html

[colinp]

SS - You may find this publication useful - Index of Baronetage Creations by Colin J Parry published by the Institute of Heraldic and Genealogical Studies in 1967

It lists each baronetcy in alphabetical order with surname and designation/seat, type of baronetcy (English, Nova Scotia etc), date of creation and (if relevant) extinction and source of the information - eg GEC's Complete Baronetage, Burkes's Extinct Peerage, Playfair (1811), Courthope (1835) etc.  The  4 baronetcies created in 1964 were not included for some reason

Quite a few of the baronetcies that were extinct in 1967 are not shown as such however though they are listed.  I believe there may have been one or two omissions as well

I believe Colin Parry was a ship's purser by profession and lived in Stockport (when he was not at sea).  He may well be still alive - he certainly was around 2015. Sir Martin Lindsay of Dowhill's booklet about the Baronetage describes him (in 1967) as a "young ship's purser"

I bought my copy via abebooks a few years ago but it doesn't appear the British website has a copy at the moment

[Robert Jewell]

I downloaded a scan of The Complete Baronetage from archive.org. I also own a copy of the Alan Sutton reprint from 1983. Since the indexes are not compiled in my hard copy, I use the download (a 6.8MB Word file) as a search source, and resort to the print copy when the scan was too seriously garbled. This way, I can have the text up right next to my database program, each taking up half of my exorbitantly large screen. I'm interested in how the Baronetage ties the Peerage together in even tighter bonds. 

I have most of the peerage in my database, except for the plethora of baronies and viscountcies created from Victorian times, where I generally add those that link to other families in the database. I've only got a few unattached orphan families in my database.

I'm not being systematic in my entry, but I try to read up on the families as I go, using articles in Wikipedia (which is not a trustworthy source all of the time, but dating and bios seem to be generally good for these obscure semi-noblemen.

[Robert Jewell]

I like your phrasing:  "An arbitrary and subjective selection..." That's sort of like my stuff. I roam around and read of odd and mad noblemen, as well as noble men. 

[Muhammad Shahid]

Thank you for pointing out the work by Perry. I actually bought a copy of it off of AbeBooks just a few days after I posted my original message. I must say that while it contains errors here and there, it is one of the very few complete compilations of baronetcies, other than that of the indefatigable Leigh Rayment’s list. Hopefully once I’m done with rewriting the Complete Peerage completely (I am starting with B in January or February of the coming year), I can begin work on rewriting the Complete Baronetage. 

S.S. 

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On Dec 29, 2022, at 6:56 AM, Robert Jewell <megap...@gmail.com> wrote:

I like your phrasing:  "An arbitrary and subjective selection..." That's sort of like my stuff. I roam around and read of odd and mad noblemen, as well as noble men. 

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