Pyrethrin & organic farms

[mikeandj...@erols.com]

Pyrethrin is a relatively safe pesticide as pesticides go.  If pest control companies are spraying your baseboards, they are probably using pyrethroid, a synthetic version.  By the way, if you must use a pest control company the best ones have a huge plastic bug on the roof of their van.  One of the quirks of the USDA rules for calling a food organic is that they are allowed to use “natural” pesticides.  Since pyrethrin is found in flowers like daisies, if derived from plants rather than being synthesized by chemical firms, it can be used by organic farms.  The toxicity of both is basically the same.

 

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Subject: Re: [pedalers] Temperature checks

 

Yes to chasing the mercury balls as kids. Also ran behind the mosquito fumigation trunks on summer nights growing up In Florida.  My parents were at par for parents of the 70s. And it was Florida. 

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On May 13, 2020, at 10:07 PM, Bruce Johnson <waterfo...@gmail.com> wrote:



The brother of one of my high school friends decided to put his soldering iron to a ball of mercury. His father, the local physics teacher, evacuated the house. That was all the lesson I needed about the danger of mercury.

Bruce A. Johnson
Herndon, Virginia

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 21:50 Mariette Vanderzon <mariette....@gmail.com> wrote:

You must admit when the thermometer broke it was so fun to chase the mercury around the floor and try to pick it up.  

 

At least the dentist is being honest.  We'll all be paying for this virus in so many additional expenses until we croak, then we'll leave the rest for posterity to finish paying. 

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 6:39 PM Steve Palincsar <pali...@his.com> wrote:

They'd need new masks too, wouldn't they?

On 5/13/20 6:31 PM, Carol L. wrote:

My dentist’s office said that the fee was for the additional sanitation measures and supplies (e.g. hand sanitizer all over the place) that they are implementing. I do not know how they costed it out. Carol

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On May 13, 2020, at 6:23 PM, Kathy Kranzfelder <kathy.kr...@gmail.com> wrote:

...and the $7 fee is for......(seriously still waiting to learn). Is that for you to wait in your own car, get your temp taken (at a doctor's office), and wash your own hands?  I'd find a new dentist.  I can recommend mine if you're in Maryland.

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 1:00 PM 'Denise C.' via Pedalers <peda...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

And the $7 fee is for ...

 

On Wednesday, May 13, 2020, 12:56:36 PM EDT, Roman, Thomas G <tom....@montgomerycollege.edu> wrote:

 

 

Just today, I got an email from my dentist’s office stating that they are re-opening Monday, May 18 (of this year). To try and be brief; you call them from your car upon arrival and wait to be ‘invited’ to enter the office – you then wash your hands upon entry to the office – they will check your temperature – and the final act is ……

“a nominal fee of $7 will be accessed per visit”

 

And I’m not the least bit surprised, they once sent me an invoice for $1.00

 

Oh before I forget; Bruce, they are now paperless.

 

Tom Roman

 

From: peda...@googlegroups.com <peda...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson
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Subject: Re: [pedalers] Temperature checks

 

Your heart rate and blood pressure may be up, too. Although what really gets my BP up at the doctor's is dealing with paperwork.

Bruce A. Johnson
Herndon, Virginia

 

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:01 'Al Robertson' via Pedalers <peda...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Do an experiment yourself and check your temperature immediately when arriving home from a ride, and then later after a cooldown to see what happens.  I'm sure people react differently, and I would think that the outside temperature would matter as well.  You can then see how long a cooldown period, if any, would be required.

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If I bike or walk to a medical/dental/other appointment where I'll have to 'pass' a temperature check in order to proceed, do I need to allow 5-10 mins to cool down after I arrive? I assume my body temp will be higher than if I drove a car or was a passenger. Is this correct?

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[Mariette Vanderzon]

 “safe pesticide as pesticides go” would be the key phrase to consider & choose not to spray your baseboards or even outdoors.  

Opium & heroine also come from plants.  & while I hope to die in an opium den rather than a nursing home, I don’t want it as part of my daily life while I’m trying to stay alive & functional.  

On May 15, 2020, at 7:41 AM, mikeandj...@erols.com wrote:



[Mariette Vanderzon]

Oops heroin 😂

On May 15, 2020, at 8:08 AM, Mariette Vanderzon <mariette....@gmail.com> wrote:



[Jim Williams]

Blue Ridge Cyclery in Charlottesville (Hollymead location) has a bike mechanic workstation set up out front and if the two wheeled patient has to be admitted overnight, there is a $30 fee for sanitizing. No customers allowed inside.  If we want these bike shops to survive we will just have to pay more.  

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[Raylo]

So does ricin. 

On May 15, 2020, at 8:12 AM, Jim Williams <jim.wil...@gmail.com> wrote:



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[Steve Palincsar]

What could be more organic than snake venom?

On 5/15/20 7:41 AM, mikeandj...@erols.com wrote:

Pyrethrin is a relatively safe pesticide as pesticides go.  If pest control companies are spraying your baseboards, they are probably using pyrethroid, a synthetic version.  By the way, if you must use a pest control company the best ones have a huge plastic bug on the roof of their van.  One of the quirks of the USDA rules for calling a food organic is that they are allowed to use “natural” pesticides.  Since pyrethrin is found in flowers like daisies, if derived from plants rather than being synthesized by chemical firms, it can be used by organic farms.  The toxicity of both is basically the same.

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Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia 
USA

[Kathy Kranzfelder]

And arsenic. And anthrax?

Per the sanitation charge at the bicycle shop:   Totally understandable because infection control was never before a baseline business practice at bicycle shops. 

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On May 15, 2020, at 8:23 AM, Raylo <ra...@comcast.net> wrote:



[Bruce Johnson]

I was going to say that arsenic isn't organic because it is an element, not a compound containing carbon, but the Wikipedia article on it mentions several toxic compounds containing it and carbon.

(FWIW, I only completed one chemistry class -- in high school -- so take any comments I make on the subject with a grain of sodium chloride.)

Bruce A. Johnson
Herndon, Virginia

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[Denise C.]

OK, I'm scratching my head here.  How did this thread migrate from checking your temperature to poison?  We all have way too much free time on our hands!  :-)

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[Bruce Johnson]

I get bored during system builds.

Bruce A. Johnson
Herndon, Virginia