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metak8

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May 13, 2020, 11:51:16 AM5/13/20
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If I bike or walk to a medical/dental/other appointment where I'll have to 'pass' a temperature check in order to proceed, do I need to allow 5-10 mins to cool down after I arrive? I assume my body temp will be higher than if I drove a car or was a passenger. Is this correct?

Al Robertson

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Do an experiment yourself and check your temperature immediately when arriving home from a ride, and then later after a cooldown to see what happens.  I'm sure people react differently, and I would think that the outside temperature would matter as well.  You can then see how long a cooldown period, if any, would be required.


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Bruce Johnson

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May 13, 2020, 12:26:35 PM5/13/20
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Your heart rate and blood pressure may be up, too. Although what really gets my BP up at the doctor's is dealing with paperwork.

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Al Robertson

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May 13, 2020, 12:26:38 PM5/13/20
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I have one of the old school thermometers with the mercury in it that you shake down and then put under your tongue.  Works fine, just takes a little longer, but no batteries to go bad and it still works after the 30+ years I've had it.

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Sounds like a good idea – if you have one of those $75 or so digital thermometers handy.
 
Tom Roman
 

Roman, Thomas G

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May 13, 2020, 12:56:17 PM5/13/20
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Just today, I got an email from my dentist’s office stating that they are re-opening Monday, May 18 (of this year). To try and be brief; you call them from your car upon arrival and wait to be ‘invited’ to enter the office – you then wash your hands upon entry to the office – they will check your temperature – and the final act is ……

“a nominal fee of $7 will be accessed per visit”

 

And I’m not the least bit surprised, they once sent me an invoice for $1.00

 

Oh before I forget; Bruce, they are now paperless.

 

Tom Roman

 

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Your heart rate and blood pressure may be up, too. Although what really gets my BP up at the doctor's is dealing with paperwork.

Denise C.

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May 13, 2020, 1:00:22 PM5/13/20
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And the $7 fee is for ...


Leslie Tierstein

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May 13, 2020, 1:05:40 PM5/13/20
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In my experience (in biking to doctor's visits), my temperature was not affected by the ride, but my blood pressure was slightly higher.  If there was no wait for me to the doctor, I had to ask them to wait 10-15 minutes to take the blood pressure reading.

deborah reynolds

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May 13, 2020, 1:11:09 PM5/13/20
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dump your ice water over your head as soon as you get off your bike as part of your experiment and let us know what difference if makes.  Also be sure to take a video!

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Rob Dahlstrom

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May 13, 2020, 2:31:26 PM5/13/20
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Driving to my doctor's office, before the pandemic, in beltway traffic has had the same effect.

mikeandj...@erols.com

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May 13, 2020, 5:54:06 PM5/13/20
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You have a thermometer with mercury!  Under no circumstances should anyone put a glass thermometer in their mouth containing mercury.  The last one I had was used to measure the temperature in blood bank refrigerators during FDA inspections back in the 1970s.  I was always worried that it might break and that toxic mercury would contaminate that hospital fridge.  They fazed out mercury thermometers for taking temperatures a long time ago and then went to alcohol.  Now it’s all electronic which is what it should be.

al....@verizon.net

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May 13, 2020, 6:09:22 PM5/13/20
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The instructions for the thermometer say "The mercury used in B-D Oral Fever Thermometers is triple distilled pure and elemental.  It is not absorbed into the system.  You need not fear mercury poisoning."

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You have a thermometer with mercury!  Under no circumstances should anyone put a glass thermometer in their mouth containing mercury.  The last one I had was used to measure the temperature in blood bank refrigerators during FDA inspections back in the 1970s.  I was always worried that it might break and that toxic mercury would contaminate that hospital fridge.  They fazed out mercury thermometers for taking temperatures a long time ago and then went to alcohol.  Now it’s all electronic which is what it should be

 

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Steve Palincsar

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May 13, 2020, 6:21:40 PM5/13/20
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Maybe back when those instructions were written, kids still played with the mercury they got out of broken thermometers, men still wore hats and Ike was President. 

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Kathy Kranzfelder

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May 13, 2020, 6:23:39 PM5/13/20
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...and the $7 fee is for......(seriously still waiting to learn). Is that for you to wait in your own car, get your temp taken (at a doctor's office), and wash your own hands?  I'd find a new dentist.  I can recommend mine if you're in Maryland.

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Carol L.

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May 13, 2020, 6:31:07 PM5/13/20
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My dentist’s office said that the fee was for the additional sanitation measures and supplies (e.g. hand sanitizer all over the place) that they are implementing. I do not know how they costed it out. Carol

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Steve Palincsar

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May 13, 2020, 6:39:14 PM5/13/20
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They'd need new masks too, wouldn't they?

al....@verizon.net

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From what I read, if you swallow the liquid mercury it doesn't get absorbed and make you sick.  It's not like the methyl mercury you get from eating contaminated fish.  But, if you leave the metal balls exposed and don't clean them up the mercury eventually evaporates, just as if it was a drop of water.  Breathing the mercury gas is dangerous.  So you have to clean it up.  If it fell on a surface such as a carpet where you can't consolidate the mercury and get rid of it you have to get rid of the carpet.  Because of this, they don't sell the mercury thermometers anymore.  I have not seen the quiet mercury light switches either.

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That is interesting. I imagine you and I are around the same age. I can remember breaking thermometer and playing with mercury and how totally cool it was...   if it is elemental mercury it would still seem to be unsafe...  

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The instructions for the thermometer say "The mercury used in B-D Oral Fever Thermometers is triple distilled pure and elemental.  It is not absorbed into the system.  You need not fear mercury poisoning."
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You have a thermometer with mercury!  Under no circumstances should anyone put a glass thermometer in their mouth containing mercury.  The last one I had was used to measure the temperature in blood bank refrigerators during FDA inspections back in the 1970s.  I was always worried that it might break and that toxic mercury would contaminate that hospital fridge.  They fazed out mercury thermometers for taking temperatures a long time ago and then went to alcohol  Now it’s all electronic which is what it should be

 

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I have one of the old school thermometers with the mercury in it that you shake down and then put under your tongue.  Works fine, just takes a little longer, but no batteries to go bad and it still works after the 30+ years I've had it.

 

A

 

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Sounds like a good idea – if you have one of those $75 or so digital thermometers handy.

 

Tom Roman

 

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Do an experiment yourself and check your temperature immediately when arriving home from a ride, and then later after a cooldown to see what happens.  I'm sure people react differently, and I would think that the outside temperature would matter as well.  You can then see how long a cooldown period, if any, would be required.

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If I bike or walk to a medical/dental/other appointment where I'll have to 'pass' a temperature check in order to proceed, do I need to allow 5-10 mins to cool down after I arrive? I assume my body temp will be higher than if I drove a car or was a passenger. Is this correct?

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Eli Allen

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Would still be best to avoid:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3514464/

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Mariette Vanderzon

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You must admit when the thermometer broke it was so fun to chase the mercury around the floor and try to pick it up.  

At least the dentist is being honest.  We'll all be paying for this virus in so many additional expenses until we croak, then we'll leave the rest for posterity to finish paying. 

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The brother of one of my high school friends decided to put his soldering iron to a ball of mercury. His father, the local physics teacher, evacuated the house. That was all the lesson I needed about the danger of mercury.


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Yes to chasing the mercury balls as kids. Also ran behind the mosquito fumigation trunks on summer nights growing up In Florida.  My parents were at par for parents of the 70s. And it was Florida. 

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bas

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Obviously no one ever took mecurechrome to a wound as a child.  Wimps.


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Yes to chasing the mercury balls as kids. Also ran behind the mosquito fumigation trunks on summer nights growing up In Florida.  My parents were at par for parents of the 70s. And it was Florida. 

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The brother of one of my high school friends decided to put his soldering iron to a ball of mercury. His father, the local physics teacher, evacuated the house. That was all the lesson I needed about the danger of mercury.

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Raylo

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LOL... I grew up in Florida and did those exact same things.  I am going to have to google the mosquito fogging to try to figure out exactly what we were breathing.  For those who never experienced it, just think of a roaring truck easing down your street leaving a thick white cloud of insecticide that literally settles on everything.... trees, lawns, houses, cars... kids.  And they come back every couple of weeks and do it all over again.  I just SMH thinking about that now.

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On 5/14/20 6:27 AM, Raylo wrote:
LOL... I grew up in Florida and did those exact same things.  I am going to have to google the mosquito fogging to try to figure out exactly what we were breathing.  For those who never experienced it, just think of a roaring truck easing down your street leaving a thick white cloud of insecticide that literally settles on everything.... trees, lawns, houses, cars... kids.  And they come back every couple of weeks and do it all over again.  I just SMH thinking about that now.

I did.  Here's what I found:


Now back when I was a kid, they used DDT.  https://www.epa.gov/ingredients-used-pesticide-products/ddt-brief-history-and-status

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Wimps used mercurechrome.  The truly brave used iodine.

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Obviously no one ever took mecurechrome to a wound as a child.  Wimps.
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Or better yet, 91% isopropyl.  That’s real pain.

 

 

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Wimps used mercurechrome.  The truly brave used iodine.

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What about rubbing some dirt on it?  that comes from the “Shake It Off, Crybaby!” school of medicine.

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