Poi possibilities & problem

[David]

The new poi icons and shapes are great. Thank you, I think I will use them a lot.

But....
When I create a poi and pick a different group/category from the last used one it does not get that new groups pre-determined colour. Although the next poi will. This feels like a bug that the standard poi colour will not be set until after the first point saved in a group.

Question or Suggestion:
It would be great if it were possible to set a standard icon for a poi group.

[David]

And ...
I am missing travel/leisure icons.
Like hotel, campsite, restaurant, supermarket/shop, park, viewpoint, swim spot, beach, rv dump station, nature reserve, museum .....

Also in de symbols group letters and symbols like ? ! # @ & € $ + - ✓ would be nice.

This is no complaint, but constructive sugestions. I think you made a wonderfull added feature with these new poi features.

Thanks for making this great app.

[Dmitry Prodchenko]

Hello, David! Thank you for the feedback.

I will forward your request about a group color to the developers. Now it can have a bug because, before that, we only have an option to select a color for the group but not for point, we still thinking about how to make it better.

I will add icons, you listed.

[David]

Thank you so much.
I realy love what you are doing with the poi function.
When you fix the group color default, it would also be great to be able to set a default group icon (and dare i ask a default group shape).

As an illustration:
I travel extensively in a motorhome and use poi groups to mark all usefull places. Now i use brown for campspots and put in the name or comment wether it is a "wild" spot, free official site, or a payed site with facilities.

A default camping icon would help differentiate campsites from hotels (also brown) and rv dumpsites (also brown).
And a default shape would differentiate between payed, free and wild spots.

Swimming holes come in different forms too, rivers, lakes, hotsprings; (now all blue) could have different default shapes.

Restaurant local or international food, now all white
Friends, family, co-worker adresses, now all pink...

The possibilities are endless.

Ps:
An upwards pointing and a downwards pointing triangle could also be usefull shapes.
For instance:
Upward pointing with restaurant icon: realy good restaurant.
Downward pointing with hotel icon: realy bad hotel.

[CP]

Although I perfectly understand your need and the logic, this is much better served with tagging.

There are not enough categories in the world to give a fine grained selection mechanism. Because then you also want a category for sites with barbecue pits, another one for sites with hot showers. The possibilities are indeed endless.

Tagging a POI allows you to add a cross-cutting interest, without framing the POI in one specific, clumsy characteristic.

-CP

Op 29-05-2020 om 23:13 schreef David:

[Hannus Paulsen]

I create my own Camping POI .obf file for myself.
Category "camp_site". I then separate them using filters.
Is it possible to create a separate category for this file with its own icon? Also offline for me only.

[David]

CP, i see your point with endless icons, my sugestions were for a few (i think often used) extra travel icons like campsite hotel "national"park and swimming hole.

And a few extra basic shapes (like triangles) for people to use for their own "in-icon-sub-divisions", so there dont have to be four diferent campsite icons and six differen swimming icons.

i don't know what tagging is, if you mean putting information in osm, that is verry usefull for public info, like is there a museum here, maybe less so for does this museum have a toilet, and verry debatable for was this a clean toilet. (Although my wife thinks this is information we should all mark on our personal map).

The way osmand is going with this poi feature makes it extremely usefull for registering PERSONAL, non-public information, in my case mainly for travel.

But i see lots more posibilities:
For biologists marking samples in the field (red-animal-up trangle)- spotted male wolf here; (red-animal-down triangle) female; (square) couple...
(Blue-flower-octagon) rare orchid population here, (blue-flower-square) only single orchid...
For city scouts:
(Yellow-octagon-exclamation mark) repair this pothole a.s.a.p.
(Green-square-question mark) have a gardner have a look at this location in the park.
As i say, endless posibilities.

[Xavier]

On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 08:17:10AM -0700, David wrote:
>i don't know what tagging is, if you mean putting information in osm,

That was what I interpreted the statement to mean.

> that is verry usefull for public info, like is there a museum here,
> maybe less so for does this museum have a toilet,

OSM already has a set of tags for explicitly tagging "does this museum
[or any other entity] have a toilet" that is accessible to the public
-- see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dtoilets

So explicitly adding that information to OSM, where you find it
missing, would be valuable for everyone using the map.

> and verry debatable for was this a clean toilet. (Although my wife
> thinks this is information we should all mark on our personal map).

The wiki page above does not have a tag to record "clean" -- and as
"clean" can often vary over time (what was clean today may not be so
well maintained a year from now) it is questionable how valuable that
tag would be long term.

[Akkana Peck]

David writes:
> The way osmand is going with this poi feature makes it extremely usefull for registering PERSONAL, non-public information, in my case mainly for travel.
>
> But i see lots more posibilities:
> For biologists marking samples in the field (red-animal-up trangle)- spotted male wolf here; (red-animal-down triangle) female; (square) couple...
> (Blue-flower-octagon) rare orchid population here, (blue-flower-square) only single orchid...

+1. I currently use files of GPX waypoints, and occasionally
Favorites, for this sort of thing, but I'd love to be able
to have my own POI categories that I could turn on and off.
Even better if I could make custom icons and colors.

For instance, I have lots of waypoints for interesting features on
hiking trails, but none of the existing POI category seems to
correspond well to natural features. The existing categories are
all about man-made features in cities -- you could make an argument
for "Sightseeing" but that doesn't really seem right for most of
these features --, but 90% of my OsmAnd use is in the backcountry.

I also have a GPX file of local mountain peaks and their heights.
OSM has peaks already, but you can't find out the name of a peak
without zooming in to a very high zoom level right on top of the
peak, which means it's useless for answering questions like "What is
that peak over in that direction from where I am, behind the lower
peak?" or "Which direction is Chicoma Peak from here?" For that,
you need to be able to zoom out to a wide view.

Climbers might want to note popular climbing spots, backpackers
might want to label springs, birders might want to label birding
hotspots ... the possibilities are endless, as David says.

I'd love to be able to create my own POI category, define an icon,
and upload a GPX file containing my personal POI for that category.

...Akkana