First Dripsody representation uploaded

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Michael Gatt

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Apr 12, 2011, 8:30:28 AM4/12/11
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Dear all,

A quick update to let you know that I have posted a representation of Dripsody on the OREMA wiki - the first of many I hope. You will find the representation here: http://www.orema.dmu.ac.uk/index.php/Michael_Gatt%27s_Dripsody_Representation on the wiki. There is also a link to the Acousmographe session file if anyone would like to use it as a template to create their own representation, although there is no music contained within the session. 

It would be great if you could leave feedback on the representation within the Discussion tab on this page (you will need to be logged into the wiki to be able to do this). The hope is that by giving feedback on the representation I as the creator will be able to review the representation and perhaps create a more concise revision in the future. It is also a place to have a heathy discussion on what works and what doesn't. 

Finally, I just wanted to get a sense of who intends to create a representation for this composition. A new composition will be suggested to all participants in the first week of May, so ideally it would be best to create a representation before then. However, this does not mean you are limited to this time period and are welcome to create a representation for a previously suggested piece anytime you want. If you are going to create a representation for Dripsody could you please get in contact with me ASAP. 

Best wishes,
Mike
 

Emmanouil Grigoriadis

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Apr 12, 2011, 9:05:03 AM4/12/11
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Hi Michael, 

Your representation looks very interesting. I did not have time to look at it in detail but I will !

I want to let you know that due to 2 new projects I have (deadlines at the of May) I will not be able to do any analysis before then.

I will do so as soon as as finish though.

Hope that is not very inconvenient.

Regards, 
Ninos 

Michael Gatt

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Apr 12, 2011, 9:11:51 AM4/12/11
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Not a problem. I understand that most people will be busy. Anytime that you can devote to creating a representation is greatly appreciated. The last thing I want is for the OREMA project to become a burden on anyone. Thanks for letting me know in advance.

Best,
Mike

Constantinou, Stace

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Apr 13, 2011, 7:07:05 AM4/13/11
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Hi Mike,
I have finished my analysis. Your graphic representation of Dripsody is very interesting. It compliments my own analysis.
I have not made a graphic representation myself, but include analytical diagrams within my analysis.
What do I do next?

Many thanks,

Stace
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Subject: First Dripsody representation uploaded

Dear all,

A quick update to let you know that I have posted a representation of Dripsody on the OREMA wiki - the first of many I hope. You will find the representation here: http://www.orema.dmu.ac.uk/index.php/Michael_Gatt%27s_Dripsody_Representation<http://www.orema.dmu.ac.uk/index.php/Michael_Gatt's_Dripsody_Representation> on the wiki. There is also a link to the Acousmographe session file if anyone would like to use it as a template to create their own representation, although there is no music contained within the session.

It would be great if you could leave feedback on the representation within the Discussion tab on this page (you will need to be logged into the wiki to be able to do this). The hope is that by giving feedback on the representation I as the creator will be able to review the representation and perhaps create a more concise revision in the future. It is also a place to have a heathy discussion on what works and what doesn't.

Finally, I just wanted to get a sense of who intends to create a representation for this composition. A new composition will be suggested to all participants in the first week of May, so ideally it would be best to create a representation before then. However, this does not mean you are limited to this time period and are welcome to create a representation for a previously suggested piece anytime you want. If you are going to create a representation for Dripsody could you please get in contact with me ASAP.

Best wishes,
Mike


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Michael Gatt

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Apr 13, 2011, 8:56:32 AM4/13/11
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Fantastic! I look forward to seeing your analysis.

I think it would be best to create a how to guide for uploading a representation. After talking to some of my colleagues I've come to realise that the wiki is not as intuitive as I once thought. Most of the procedures have become second nature to me. I shall therefore create a step-by-step process of how to upload a representation and link it in a subsequent email for everyone.

Thanks once again,
Mike

Michael Gatt

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Apr 14, 2011, 6:49:50 AM4/14/11
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Dear all,

I have uploaded some video tutorials as promised in the last email thread. You can find these tutorials on the User Guide page within the wiki here:http://www.orema.dmu.ac.uk/index.php/User_guide. I apologise for quality of the recording, but they will give you an overview of how to navigate, upload representations, edit pages and referencing files within the wiki environment. Let me know if these are helpful and I can always create more in the future.

Best,
Mike

Rebecca Taylor

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Mar 30, 2015, 10:49:17 PM3/30/15
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Hi Mike,

I saw your graphic analysis of Dripsody earlier this year, but the link for it no longer works.  Can you send me a usable link?

Thanks!
Becky 

Simon Emmerson

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Mar 31, 2015, 3:44:17 AM3/31/15
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hi Becky

OREMA is down at the moment – it was hacked, we have no idea why.
We have a complete backup and it should be restored soon – we'll post a message when this has been done.
Sorry – might take a few days as there's holiday -

Bw
Simon Emmerson

Professor of Music, Technology and Innovation
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Michael Gatt

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Mar 31, 2015, 4:32:11 AM3/31/15
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Dear all,

Unfortunately OREMA was hacked as Simon says. We are looking into possible solutions now.

I have backups of the content on the website, so I can send any information to anyone who is interested.

Becky: I'm not in the country at the moment, but I will send you the dripsody analysis when I return.

Best wishes,
Michael



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Alessandro Ratoci

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Nov 20, 2023, 4:53:54 PM11/20/23
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Hello, just came here to seek for electroacoustic analysis ideas for my students, and it seems that OREMA is dead and the site is down, any clue on that? Anybody still involved in it? 
Thanks
RaToX

Leigh Landy

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Nov 21, 2023, 2:40:40 AM11/21/23
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Sadly, there is no funding for the project anymore. I have spoken with our computer services department which is investigating fixes for the site but that would only be temporary and we have no one administering it anymore, I’m afraid. Therefore, we are not in the ideal position of fully reviving it without that IT support as Wordpress needs frequent updates added.

 

Best wishes,

 

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Alessandro Ratoci

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Nov 23, 2023, 8:58:09 AM11/23/23
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Dear Mr. Landy,
thank you for your quick reply. Sorry to hear it, I understand the reasons and can't help myself from thinking that a project like this should at least be accessible in a frozen state for the future. You'll have probably considered all of this but what about recollecting texts, sounds and eventual multimedia material in a new, shareable form?
In the meantime I found the archived version at the wayback machine, could you have a look and give an opinion about the state of preservation?
Thank you very much,
Alessandro Ratoci

Leigh Landy

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Nov 23, 2023, 9:02:30 AM11/23/23
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There is not much for me to say, Alessandro. Michael Gatt was lead on this project and left the university many years ago upon completion of his doctorate. Since them we’ve kept it alive by volunteering to do updates, but usage did drop. I do not believe he is interested in porting it to his university as he would have done so already leaving us in a situation of a ‘frozen’ site, as you write, with potential to act as a relevant hub but without support or someone administering it.

 

I have had to take two major sites (EARS site and EARS 2 site) and move them elsewhere to ensure they are kept up to date.

 

Yours sincerely,

David Hirst

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Nov 23, 2023, 5:26:09 PM11/23/23
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Dear Alessandro,
Well done on sourcing the web archive. In terms of “the state of preservation “ the two main menu links are “Analyses “ & “EOREMA”. Under Analyses the material is a mix of just abstracts, web page renders of full articles and PDF files. Some of the material is missing, e.g. images referred to as figures in the text. Similarly, under the EOREMA menu, the articles are mainly in html web page format and have some missing images too. Thus they are incomplete.
Whilst I would be happy to help work on assembling the web materials into a more preserved format like PDF (assuming all materials could be found), I fear other issues such as hosting the compilation (although that could be like a single zipped archive file on a GitHub site), and of course obtaining permissions from various stakeholders, could actually be just as much work as the compilation process.
Then copyright issues preclude the incorporation of any sound elements.
It may be that reproductions of some of the articles could be available on sites like ResearchGate.net and could be accessed that way.

Kind Regards,
David

Dr David Hirst
Retired Honorary Principal Research Fellow 
University of Melbourne 


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Michael Gatt

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Nov 24, 2023, 4:43:51 AM11/24/23
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Dear Alessandro,

Many thanks for reaching out. I see that many have already responded, but as the creator of OREMA I thought it best to respond to your email.

As Leigh has already mentioned I have not been at DMU for over 10 years now having finished my doctorate there. Having no current connection with the university the maintaince of the website was an issue as it was hosted through their web services. It was in a frozen state until recently and had no new content for a number of years.

I believe I do have the information of the website saved offline following a hack that occurred back in 2015, so I would be happy to send through any information I have if you let me know what you would like.

Best wishes,
Michael Gatt

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