OpenCog dev thru Nao

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Ahmad M.

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Mar 27, 2017, 11:40:03 PM3/27/17
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Good day Ben and all the other devs and users,

I strongly believe openCog to be a good complete framework for an AGI, albeit it needs work on being implemented and more tweaks here and there.

At the moment it is only a skeleton and we need to design its body, and to show its performance, we need to embody it in a humanoid robot. I suggest we use an Aldebaran Nao, as Xiamen University folks have done. Before I begin development work, I would like to seek advice from the OpenCog devs here. Is it possible to use OpenCog as an embedded cognition system on the Nao robot, given the hardware limitations of the bot ?

Ben Goertzel

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Mar 28, 2017, 5:49:34 AM3/28/17
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Using Nao is certainly possible, but I am more interested at the
moment in seeing what we can do with OpenCog on inexpensive robots
powered by Raspberry Pi 3 or similar...

This is something we (Hanson Robotics, iCog Labs, etc.) will be
exploring over the course of 2017...
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Ahmad M.

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Mar 29, 2017, 9:41:51 PM3/29/17
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I was having difficulty fathoming how an AtomSpace would be stored within Nao, not to mention how algorithms such as MOSES running on extensive networks, is implausible for the Nao Atom processor.

Therefore, I am surprised at the notion of running OpenCog on low-level hardware such as Raspberry Pi.

Ben Goertzel

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Mar 30, 2017, 10:17:40 AM3/30/17
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Atomspace is just a container, it doesn't take especially much memory
or processing power... unless you put a lot of data in it obviously!

Running MOSES for learning on a Pi isn't going to be a good idea, OTOH
*evaluating* MOSES models that were learned elsewhere is not expensive

The URE rule engine (and so PLN) can run on Raspberry Pi, but
obviously complex inferences will take a long time...

So it's possible to make OpenCog do stuff on embedded processors but
for many applications it may be better to have e.g. an OpenCog on the
Pi that stores a relatively small amount of immediately important
knowledge and does only simple processing (say, perception, action
selection and very simple inference) , and that connects to an OpenCog
on the cloud that does more serious thinking...

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