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The Financial Industry Business Ontology (FIBO) was created according to exactly these principles, specifically so it can be used as a reference ontology e.g. for reporting, risk management, compliance, integration and so on.
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Yes, there are currently many such in the biomedical community, in fact, most of those in the OBO Foundry.
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Dear Gary,
ISO 15926 of course. Main domain is process engineering. Weak on axiomatization, though an OWL version is currently in development. The main use of axioms and reasoning is expected to be verification of additions.
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I would also like to point out the OMG initiative for threat and risk information sharing and federation which uses conceptual reference models (a.k.a. ontologies) and mappings to specific data structures. More information can be found on www.threatrisk.org.
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Can I draw attention to www.openmath.org which is not incorporated in MathML3, and at least attempts to satisfy
“Detailed and vigorous axiomization of the needed semantics in a representation language that affords automated verification and reasoning”.
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Hi Kingsley,
The OMG standards parts of FIBO are available on the web, though these don't contain all the material that covers the foundational grounding, as yet.
For instance this URI gives an "About" file that imports all of FIBO Foundations (not quite current - a version 1.1 is soon to be published there):
http://www.omg.org/spec/EDMC-FIBO/FND/AboutFND-1.0.rdf
Similarly there's an OMG page for FIBO Business Entities, with listings of the inividual ontology URIs (but not About file in this version, which is superseded by another version that the OMG site has not yet published).
http://www.omg.org/spec/EDMC-FIBO/BE/1.0/Beta2/index.htm
The more conceptually complete material I was referring to, with all the foundational abstractions and the rest of the industry draft content (securities etc.), is currently being worked on so that we can expose this as RDF/OWL files, but that work won't be complete until around the end of April as a first draft. This will subsequently be expressed in SKOS for further business subject matter expert review and completion over the coming months. The draft concepts are all available as graphics and spreadsheets but not yet as RDF/OWL.
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I thought it was fascinating to discover this morning this "Islamic mandala" or "sunburst" described by an author as a symbol for "the ninety-nine names of God in Islam"
What was once Babylonia is now Iraq. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonia
The word “algebra” is derived from the Arabic. I wonder how those ancient Babylonian mathematicians would view ontological studies of modern sunburst diagrams….

“Algebra—meaning “reunion of broken parts”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algebra

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On 4/11/2016 5:33 PM, Gary Berg-Cross wrote:
> Formal languages and controlled NL bring with them (or we hope should
> in practice) a focus on"thinking clearly" about topics & intentions.
They are indeed important tools, and the discipline they enforce is certainly helpful to "thinking clearly". That kind of discipline, which is usually called *mathematics*, has enabled people to think clearly for thousands of years.
The Babylonian mathematicians, for example, were able to do some very sophisticated math thousands of years ago. That point was known for a long time. But some recently discovered cuneiform tablets provided additional evidence:
> A reanalysis of markings on Babylonian tablets has revealed that
> astronomers working between the fourth and first centuries BC used
> geometry to calculate the motions of Jupiter — a conceptual leap that
> historians thought had not occurred until fourteenth- century Europe.
http://www.nature.com/news/babylonian-astronomers-used-geometry-to-track-jupiter-1.19261
Summary: Discipline is essential to "think clearly", and logic, mathematics, computer science, etc. are valuable for enforcing discipline. But discipline alone does not provide new ideas.
You also need observation, insights, creativity, experiments, testing, reading, and discussions with other people.
For more on these issues, see slides 28 to 31 of http://www.jfsowa.com/talks/interop.pdf
John
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Thank you.
I think what is fascinating me about sunburst diagrams-- is their similarity with so many ancient or "profound" symbols all of which strike me as "pre-mathematical" -- but probably pointing in a profound and simplifying direction, that I personally suspect is very significant -- and if generally ignored, it's most for myopic reasons. There's a lot of bridge-building to do here, obviously -- and a long history of windmill tilting.
It seemed another fascinating serendipity this morning when my friend called me about a talk she had just heard at Toastmasters, on the subject of "executable philosophy". I laughed when she told me that -- but I looked at the web site. This is a smart guy: http://www.executablephilosophy.org/ I don't know whether it's feasible -- but it's interesting. He's driven by a primary concern that I've been chasing for many years: ambiguity in the interpretation of abstractions. That's the killer problem -- in politics and in religion.
Regarding sunburst diagrams, I don't mean to imply that "we only need one kind of diagram" or anything like that -- but I do think there is a stunning and very significant similarity between SO many facets of contemporary semantic ontology -- ALL of which seem to revolve around -- or be centrally organized by -- the same concept: levels of abstraction. Level of abstraction IS a linear variable. We can quickly come up with a long list of standard epistemological or logical or mathematical concepts that can immediately be organized on the same framework. Taxonomy is the obvious starting point.
Maybe the subject is confused because the question "what is abstraction" remains confused and controversial. People with a bottom-up perspective -- and it's probably correct to suppose that most professional working ontologists in responsible paid positions are required to take that point of view or risk their professional status -- are not likely to get entangled in this kind of issue. But the issue of defining "abstraction" is more a political problem than it is a technical one.
I have been looking at this stuff a long time, and I think the whole enchilada ("ontological space") can be linearized -- IF we give up the adamant insistence on bottom-up empiricism and understand that we are talking about stipulation, which is a whole different thing. Don’t talk about "how it is out there" -- because how it is out there is a mess -- an undisciplined chaos of semi-random free-association connections in any direction anybody thinks is interesting for any local reason -- and that's the prevailing human standard at the moment because nobody can or does take responsibility for the whole. But what we should be doing is not talking about "how it is" (confused and fragmented and noisy) but about "how it should be" (harmonically collaborative) -- and building a map to get from here to there.
So -- any claim that even a top-down masterpiece of brilliant integration can subsume or integrate ALL of that stuff -- would be depend on actually interpreting every last bit of this fragmented stuff as local subsets running on their own private or bounded law -- and then politely showing 1) why their stuff makes sense in a bounded local environment, though it is fragmented and incommensurate in the whole, and then 2) showing how that local subset maps to the integral tree, creating a sweet-spirited pathway into the one-size-fits-everything whirly-gig...
It's kind of like saying -- absolutely any point can be the starting point -- totally ignoring the large implicit containing framework that holds all these developments. Just drive your stake in the ground and go. If you can sell your products, nice going. But we're in a global space now. We gotta get smarter -- not to mention nicer...
PS -- I've started making another database -- drawn totally from Wikipedia -- and this thing IS a kind of free-association gismo. I build a list of terms I think are interesting, and then I add another Wikipedia article and my little search algorithm runs the complete list of terms through the article, and if the term is found, the algorithm creates a link. A little crude maybe, but probably in the statistical ballpark. http://origin.org/database.cfm
Hang the entire civilized internet universe from one non-relativistic coordinate origin??? Just because “it’s the right thing to do??” Either crazy or mind-blowing....
Bruce Schuman, Santa Barbara CA USA
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On 4/12/2016 11:46 AM, Bruce Schuman wrote:
> The word “algebra” is derived from the Arabic. I wonder how those
> ancient Babylonian mathematicians would view ontological studies of
> modern sunburst diagrams….
The scribes who used cuneiform had to learn some Sumerian, since its syllable-structures were based on Sumerian phonetics, which is very different from the Semitic phonetics of Akkadian, then Assyrian, and then Aramaic.
After the Persians conquered that region, they used the same scribes to communicate with the entire region in Aramaic, since it was then the lingua franca. But when Alexander conquered the Persians, he forced the scribes to use Greek. Kings, empires, and languages came and went, but the scribes had job security.
Re sunburst diagrams: They're useful for representing some kinds of structures. But the variety of useful diagrams is as open ended as the kinds of structures. In the orders of infinity, the set of points on a plane is uncountably infinite, but the set of curves
(diagrams) on a plane is the next higher infinity.
John
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