United State Smash 2025...
AJ Scott
will start tomorrow at 12 noon down in Las Vegas, NV or 3 pm our time
and go on until Sunday, the 13th:
https://www.worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Matches&innerselectedTab=Scheduled&eventId=3082
[tomorrow's schedule]. They'll have 3 days of "qualis", then the main
draw will start on Sunday. Until then, there will be 3 tables in
play--tables 2, 3 & 4--which I imagine will be livestreamed at the WTT
YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WTTGlobal/streams. When the
main draw starts, they'll bring in table 1 to make it 4 tables in play.
There will also be a Para event which will be held on site next Monday
thru Wednesday, July 7-9.
Player list:
https://www.worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Player%20List&eventId=3082.
As I mentioned the other day, the total prize money will be more than
1.5 million dollars which will draw in most of the top 200 players. The
top 10 men's seeds are Lin Shidong, Wang Chuqin, Hugo Calderano,
Harimoto Tomokazu, Liang Jingkun, Truls Moregardh, Felix Lebrun, Lin
Yun-ju, Darko Jorgic and Xiang Peng, followed by Alexis Lebrun at 12.
The top 10 women's seeds are Sun Yingsha, Wang Chuqin, Chen Xingtong,
Wang Yidi, Kuai Man, Harimoto Miwa, Itoh Mima, Ohdo Satsuki, Hayata Hina
and Shin Yubin.
Penholders... You'll have Felix Lebrun, Dang Qiu, and Wong Chun Ting
for the men and, for the women, it'll be Shan Xiaona and Yu Fu.
Pips-out/anti-spin players... On the men's side, it'll be Mattias
Falck (short pips/fh), Wang Yang (chopper), Ylane Batix of Cameroon
(long pips/bh) and Luka Mladenovic (anti-spin/bh). On the women's side
it'll be Itoh Mima (short pips/bh), Hashimoto Honoka (chopper), Kihara
Miyuu (short pips/bh), He Zhuojia (long pips/bh), Yuan Jianan (short
pips/fh), Liu Yangzi (short pips/bh), Sabine Winter (anti-spin/bh), Han
Ying (chopper), Jee Minhyung (medium pips/bh), Zhang Mo (short pips/fh),
Manika Batra (long pips/bh), Linda Bergstrom (chopper), Yuan Wan (short
pips/fh--she's Winter's doubles partner), Shan Xiaona (short pips both
sides, but she only hits with the fh), Sreeja Akula (long pips/bh),
Jessica Reyes-Lai (short pips/bh), Yu Fu (short pips/bh, but she only
hits with the fh), Choi Hyojoo (short pips/bh), Giulia Takahashi (short
pips/bh), Ayhika Mukherjee (anti-spin/bh, short pips/fh), YD Ghorpade
(long pips/bh), Ivana Malobabic (chopper), Yoo Siwoo (short pips/bh?),
Audrey Zarif (short pips/fh), Lilou Massart of Belgium (short pips/fh),
Sutirtha Mukherjee (short pips/fh), and Clio Barcenas of Mexico (long
pips/bh--playing women's doubles only with Arantxa Cossio).
Americans... A few of the people who were at the US Nationals yesterday
will be here in Vegas this week--US Nat'l Champions Kanak Jha and Sally
Moyland as well as the finalists, Nandan Naresh (and older brother Sid)
and Amy Wang and semifinalists Zhang Xiangjing, Liang Jishan and Irene
Yeoh. Lily Zhang, the US no. 1 woman will also play as well as Mandy
Yu, Kayla Goodwin and Isabella Xu. Also, the US no. 2 man, Ma Jinbao,
will also play. He'll be in action late tomorrow night around 10:45 pm
our time on table 2 vs. Dean Shu of NZ. I think that should be an easy
win for Ma.
Another interesting match could be Irene Yeoh vs. Giulia Takahashi.
Irene almost pulled off a shock upset of Sally Moyland yesterday at the
Nat'ls. That was my first time seeing a match of hers and it appears to
me she has enough game to take out Takahashi, provided she knows how
play against pips--Takahashi has short pips on the bh. They'll play
around 6 pm Friday evening on table 3.
Players to look out for... I've been watching the Asian Youth TT
Championships for the past week and I've seen a few scintillating
matches. Looking at the player list, I see a coupla players who were
there who I think people should look out for--Isaac Quek of Singapore
and Lee Seung-soo, who I call the "boy-wonder of South Korea." The
Championship was held in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, so they came all the way
over to the US of A from there. They must be jetlagged, so I wonder if
both of them are going to be able to get themselves together and play
well this week
I'll also be looking at Ylane Batix of Cameroon, by way of France, as
well as Sabine Winter, the German no. 1--in singles and doubles with her
partner Yuan Wan. They've scored a few upsets recently and you have the
sense they'll be one of the top doubles pairings in the world soon.
Ylane Batix (almost sounds like "elon-bateeks") has a tough match
tomorrow vs. Samuel Kulczycki (almost sounds like "cool-chit-ski").
I'll also be looking out for Anna Hursey of Wales who's playing her best
right now. She has gotten very fast and there's a "relentless" quality
to her game now. Y'know, I think, given where she's from, she could use
a nickname... How about "Anna, Dragoness of Wales"? Or if she's at an
event in an English-speaking country and is introduced to the public,
the announcer should say something like, "And now, on table 4, it's the
Red Dragon of Wales, Annaaaaaa Hurseeeeey" Here's a pic of her:
https://www.worldtabletennis.com/playerDescription?playerId=131480.
She's wearing a red shirt and you can see a dragon on it. The red
dragon is the national symbol of Wales
Other people to look out for: Csaba Andras, the Hungarian no. 1;
Matsushima Sora, the Japanese no. 2; Oh Jun-sung, the South Korean no. 3
and son of former long-time South Korean no. 1, Oh Sang-eun; Huang
Yan-cheng of Chinese Taipei who will play MLTT next season, etc. I hear
Huang's teammate, Lin Yun-ju is one of the MLTT team owners, so I wonder
if he'll be playing on Lin's team?
AJ Scott
On 7/3/2025 2:09 PM, Marcos wrote:
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>> On Jul 2, 2025, at 10:32 PM, AJ Scott <2ajs...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>> For those of you who are interested, the biggest TT event in US history will start tomorrow at 12 noon down in Las Vegas, NV or 3 pm our time and go on until Sunday, the 13th: https://www.worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Matches&innerselectedTab=Scheduled&eventId=3082 [tomorrow's schedule]. They'll have 3 days of "qualis", then the main draw will start on Sunday. Until then, there will be 3 tables in play--tables 2, 3 & 4--which I imagine will be livestreamed at the WTT YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@WTTGlobal/streams. When the main draw starts, they'll bring in table 1 to make it 4 tables in play. There will also be a Para event which will be held on site next Monday thru Wednesday, July 7-9.
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Marcos
AJ Scott
1--starting this Sunday at around 3:30 pm:
https://www.espn.com/watch/schedule/_/type/upcoming/startDate/20250706
[ESPN's Sunday's schedule--scroll down the list to TABLE TENNIS for the
links to the livestreams]. Tables 2-4 will continue be livestreamed at
the WTT YouTube channel at https://www.youtube.com/@WTTGlobal/streams
Sunday is when the matches from the main draw will start. Actually, for
those of you who are interested, the WTT will livestream the main draw
ceremony today at 2 pm at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMtUhP6100I
And then the next qualification rounds start at 3 pm--here's today's
schedule:
https://www.worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Matches&innerselectedTab=Scheduled&eventId=3082
For more info, go to the US Smash website, here: https://ussmash.com/home
I watched the Ylane Batix match yesterday and I must say that that was
the best I've ever seen him play. He is evolving into what I would call
a "hybrid defender". He chopblocks on the bh when close to the table,
he chops on the bh when far from the table and, seemingly at will, he
can turn the corner and attack with a beautiful Chinese-style loop. It
takes a lot of planning, strategizing to play a game like that, which is
why I would say that he could potentially be the best "African" player
of all time. I put "African" in quotes bc he's a French kid who happens
to have dual citizenship with Cameroon, his father's home country.
Which reminds me, just about all the African-French players have left
the French Nat'l Team and now play for their parents' countries.
Abdel-Kader Salifou, who's also playing in Vegas this week, now plays
for Benin. Ibrahima Diaw plays for Senegal. Mehdi Bouloussa (lost
yesterday to Kristian Karlsson of Sweden) and Stephane Ouaiche play for
Algeria and Sarah Hanffou plays alongside Ylane Batix for Cameroon.
Batix' next match is late tonight at 10:45 pm on table 2 vs. Sathiyan
Gnanasekaran, the former Indian no. 1. Again, Batix is the top male
chopblocker in the world, followed by Amirreza Abbasi of Malta, then
Luka Mladenovic of Luxembourg, who's also playing this week.
Mladenovic's next match is at 9:35 tonight on table 2 vs. Manush Shah,
currently the Indian no. 2 at 67th in the world. That's going to be a
tough match for Mladenovic
Also plays at 10:45 pm tonight, Ma Jinbao, the US no. 2 faces Tiago
Apolonia of Portugal on table 4. They played once last year and Ma
squeaked out a 3-2 win. It was 9-9 in the 5th and Ma won 2 points in a
row and the match. Hopefully, he'll have an easier time of it
tonight... Other Americans are in action today--Victor Xie plays
Olajide Omotayo, the longtime Nigerian no. 2 and one of the "Westchester
Africans" (as I call them), on table 2 at 3:35 pm. Kayla Goodwin plays
chopper Ivana Malobabic of Croatia on table 2 at 4:10 pm. Neshant
Lebaka plays Cedric Nuytinck of Belgium on table 2 at 4:45 pm. Irene
Yeoh plays Giulia Takahashi on table 3 at around 6 pm. Brianna Burgos,
the PR no. 2, plays Lea Rakovac (sounds like "RA-ko-vatch") on table 4
at 9 pm. Sean Zhang/Zhang Xiangjing plays Borgar Haug, the Norwegian
no. 1, at 9:35 pm and Ved Sheth faces off vs. Adrien Rassenfosse of
Belgium on table 3 at 10:10 pm.
Anyhow, I'm still bummed out about Hugo not being able to play--I was
looking forward to seeing him win this week... Anyway, there'll be a
Europe Smash next month and a China Smash in September and both have 1.5
million dollars in prize money, so he can attend those... The next
event he's signed up for is the WTT Contender Buenos Aires which starts
2.5 weeks from now on the 22nd
Dan Wang
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AJ Scott
Wow! Now NYTableTennis has a reporter on site! And you're just in time for the Main Draw Ceremony which starts 30 mins. from now!
How's the weather? Is it hotter than NYC? Up here it's in the mid-80s today
Dan Wang
AJ Scott
And they're practicing in a tent outside in 100 degree heat? That's insane!
Well, I guess the doors should open just before 12 pm down there. There's a potentially interesting match on table 3 starting around that time--Lilian Bardet (sounds like "li-li-AWN bar-DAY") of France vs. little Lee Seung-soo, the boy-wonder of South Korea. I think Bardet will win that match, but Lee could make it close, assuming he's not too jetlagged... He was in Uzbekistan just a coupla days back...
AJ Scott
Giulia Takahashi vs. Irene Yeoh: https://youtu.be/sa6-WcPUPcQ?t=10389 [full match]. Takahashi is ranked 77th in the world and is the Brazilian no. 2 woman behind her older sister, Bruna, who is ranked 19th. Irene is ranked 526th in the world and is the US no. 11 woman and the US no. 2 U-15 cadet (age 14).
AJ Scott
Ma Jinbao just got thumped by Sathiyan Gnanasekaran, but, afterwards, the umpire walked up to him and handed him the "lucky loser form". He just needs to sign that and hand it over to someone at the control desk and they'll plug him in somewhere in the main draw. So, I'm curious, Dan, if you're reading this, is that what you're doing down there--working at the control desk?
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AJ Scott
Well, anyway, I assume he still wants to play, so he will turn that form in to the control desk. So, even though he lost in the qualis, they made him a lucky loser, so he's still alive and will play in the main draw
Irene Yeoh lost earlier today to Ayhika Mukherjee of India. She just couldn't read those wobbly balls coming off Mukherjee's anti-spin rubber. I wonder if they made her a lucky loser, too? I guess we'll find out in a little bit...
AJ Scott
Wait, another question, Dan... Have you heard any "grumbling" from the players about the conditions? I'm seeing a lot of slippage. I saw one match where whenever the player stomped on the carpet, water would seap up from underneath it. Some of the players are livid about that and they've been arguing with the umpires
Oh, Anna Hursey just lost her match and they handed her a lucky loser form, so she'll be in the main draw, as well.
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AJ Scott
So, it looks like all the losers tonight will be "lucky losers." Sean Zhang's next match is scheduled for 9 pm down there (midnight up here). He plays Joao Geraldo (almost sounds like "joan jay-RAL-do") on table 2. But they're behind schedule on table 2... Anyway, he'll probably be more relaxed if he knows that, even if he loses, he will advance to the main draw anyway
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I didn't click the link, but I think I know who it was. It was Wang Yang, the chopper from Slovakia. He got pissed and slammed the table, bc the umpire had just faulted his serve for the 3rd time. Funny--he was cursing in Spanish, instead of Chinese. And then the referee came up and gave him a red card and threw him out of him out of the tournament (for damaging the table). I don't remember the last time I saw that
I noticed that there's been a lot of yelling and screaming from the players the last few days. I think it's the amount of prize money. That puts a lot of pressure on the players, bc losing a match means losing a lot of money
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AJ Scott
So, I'm wondering how this "lucky loser" thing works, bc every loser last night got a lucky loser form. So, do they put all the names in a hat and pick one and make that person the lucky loser?
Yes, some Americans are in action today... Jessica Reyes-Lai takes on Filippa Bergand on table 3 at 4:40 pm (our time). I think Jessica has a chance in that match... Then Adriana Diaz, the PR no. 1 woman, takes on Kim Nayeong on table 1, the TV table, at 5:50 pm. Then, as you mentioned, Bosman Botha/Amy Wang face Eduard Ionescu/Berni Szocs in the next match on table 1--scheduled for 6:25 pm. They are playing one match after the other so, some matches might start before their scheduled time.
Then Nandan Naresh/Sally Moyland face off against Liam Pitchford and Anna, Dragoness of Wales at 9 pm tonight. Then, a heartbreaker, Lily Zhang has to play her frenemy, Amy Wang, on table 1 at 9:35 pm. I'm really disappointed that they got matched up together yet again. Lily was at the Draw Ceremony and, though she put on a smiley face, she was disappointed, too. She's gotten the short end of the stick the last few times she & Amy have played...
And, then, the last match on the TV Table will be Kanak Jha vs. Lee Sang-soo. That's gonna be a tough one. Lee is deceptively fast and has an excellent bh loopkill.
And, a whole lot of other matches will be intriguing, as well. So, today is going to be a great day of TT!
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Albert
I splurged on platinum seats for 1 session. Attached are some pics
AJ Scott
What about Jessica Reyes-Lai! She squeaked out a win vs. Filippa Bergand--at deuce in the 5th. Coming into the match, I did not expect her the win, though I thought she had a chance. Congratulations goes to Coach Gao! She's the one who put Jessica over the edge
Adriana Diaz is next on the TV Table and Anders Lind is next on table 2. Both tables are behind schedule
Watching Sun match now. Thanx for the pix!
AJ Scott
I'm watching the Anders Lind match and I see Chairman Wang Liqin in the VIP section
AJ Scott
The big match from yesterday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZdpYwGdXm4 [Lilian Bardet of France vs. Liang Jingkun of China]. Liang Jingkun is ranked 5th in the world and Lilian Bardet, 85th. The French Men's Team is, however, 2nd in the world behind the Chinese. So, going forward, we will perhaps see more French upsets of the top Chinese.
A few more close matches...
1. Kanak vs. Lee Sang-su: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WymEP4luQmA
2. Amy vs. Lily: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LltxCVSMGfs. It was sad to watch this. Both of them are the top 2 Americans and the faces of USA TT, but I get the sense that they will both announce their retirements soon--mainly due to moments like this. Anyhow, in the next round, Amy has to play Yuan Jianan, the short-pips-on-the-fh attacker from France (by way of China). The last time Lily played her, she won. Maybe Amy should talk to Lily about that match, if she's in the mood to talk. If not, then Amy & Coach Gao should review this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScMz21CUAFk [full match]. That was last year and now Yuan is a little better--she's turning the corner faster to force an fh attack with the short pips. Yuan upset Berni Szocs last night and it was the serve and the short pips attack that won her the match, in my opinion. I believe the thinking in Lily's & Yuan's match last year was for Lily to go after Yuan's inconsistent bh, but occasionally hit to the fh to force Yuan to think twice about turning the corner and attacking with the pips. Maybe that tactic can work again this time around?
3. Nandan Naresh/Sally Moyland vs. Liam Pitchford/Anna Hursey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFNFRB3nVpY
American matches today... Most will played on the TV table at the Maverick Arena...
1. Bosman Botha/Liang Jishan vs. Benedikt Duda/Dang Qiu--TV table at 3:30 pm
2. Sean Zhang vs. An Jae-hyun--table 3 at 5:30 pm
3. Nandan Naresh vs. Dima Ovtcharov--TV Table at 5:50 pm
4. Sid Naresh vs. Harimoto Tomokazu--TV table at 10:45 pm
5. Sally Moyland vs. Jieni Shao--TV table at 11:20 pm
6. Liang Jishan vs. Baldwin Chan/Chan Ho Wah of HK--table 3 at midnight
If you are noticing a lot of inconsistency in the play of most of the players, it's because Las Vegas is 2000 ft. above sea-level, so they're playing at altitude. I like the fact that, this time around, the TT commentators are talking about this as commentators do in the sport of tennis. It's instructive in that you can use discussions like this to show that the top players are essentially amateur physicists and, to get to the top of the Game, you must have some understanding of the laws of physics as they apply to TT.
Take "spin" for example. You often hear people say "that was backspin" or "that had a lot of topspin on it." Statements like that are imprecise and misleading to people who are learning how to play the Game. If you look at a ball flying thru the air in super slow motion, you will see that it is spinning in two directions at once--vertically (topspin or backspin) and horizontally (clockwise (right-spinning) or counterclockwise (left-spinning)). So, when people are discussing spin, saying "backspin" or "topspin" is not good enough. You should say "top counter-clockwise spin" or "back clockwise spin" etc.
In my humble opinion, part of the reason people have difficulty playing against pips-out/anti-spin players is bc of "spin reversal"--the main feature of those rubbers. They reverse the spin in both directions--both horizontal and vertical spin--to various degrees. So, when a ball that has been struck with pips-out/anti-spin comes back to you, even if you know which "vertical spin" is on the ball, if you don't know what "horizontal spin" is on the ball, you will approach the ball with the wrong racket angle and mis-hit it.
AJ Scott
China vs. the World...
1. Lin Gaoyuan vs. Alvaro Robles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmyQm0Dtnyg
2. Zhou Qihao vs. Quadri Aruna: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJm11Q--efU
3. Lin Shidong vs. Thibault Poret: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=040t5nKz9qg
Today's schedule: https://www.worldtabletennis.com/eventInfo?selectedTab=Matches&innerselectedTab=Scheduled&eventId=3082
For me, the big match today is Amy vs. Yuan Jianan of France--at 4:40 pm in the Maverick Arena--where the TV table is located. Even though Yuan is the higher-ranked player, that's a very winnable match for Amy
Oh, if, by chance, any of you would prefer to watch foreign broadcasts of this, go here to find the list of foreign channels: https://www.worldtabletennis.com/livevideo [and then click CLICK HERE TO FIND YOUR REGIONAL BROADCASTER]
AJ Scott
The 2 men's semifinals were the matches of the tournament so far--China vs. the World, again...
1. Wang Chuqin vs. Felix Lebrun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaK5AWc7rJ4 [highlights--this was the better semi in my opinion]
2. Lin Shidong vs. Harimoto Tomokazu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1lietVFIF0 [highlights]
I hope Hugo Calderano, down in Brazil, was watching these matches as these are the 4 guys he will most likely meet in the later rounds. I'm a little surprised that Lin Shidong is the world's no. 1 (especially after hearing Harimoto is 5-1 against him) as Wang Chuqin, in my mind, is the most cerebral player in the Game right now. Hugo really needs to spend a whole lot of time analyzing his game and "meditating" on how he's going to play in his next match against him, bc, in my humble opinion, Wang's just on a higher level then the rest of the field
Hugo should probably buy a small notebook and carry it around with him everywhere he goes so he can write down ideas on how he's going to play his next matches whenever those ideas come. And I think the same goes for his gf, Bruna Takahashi. I think if they both do this, they will improve their "mental game" as it will help them organize their thoughts. Both of them have already made history for Brazil and South America, but to go to the next level, they have to do something extra
Anyhow, this event ends tonight with the women's & men's singles final, which start at 9 pm and 10 pm, respectively. After that, the next events in the WTT schedule will be WTT Contender Lagos [Nigeria] and WTT Contender Buenos Aires [Argentina], both starting on Tuesday of next week. Then there's the WTT Star Contender Foz do Iguasu [Brazil] starting on July 29th. Hugo Calderano has signed up to play both of the South American events
And, as I look further down the event list, the WTT will be back in the US next month, namely at the WTT Feeder Spokane [Washington] which will be a two-part series starting on Aug. 5th and ending on the 12th. Amy Wang has signed up for both part 1 and 2. I love watching Amy play--I just wish she were in a place where she could put 100% of her attention on the Game. Well, perhaps 70% is more realistic... Anyhow, if she were able to be more focused on the Game, she would truly be great. More on all to follow
Dan Wang
For USA players, by her win over Lily, Amy Wang moved up 9 places to #56. Lily moved down 1 spot. Jessica Reyes Lai is now 3rd highest, moving up 33 places into #95, 3 places ahead of Sally Moyland. Irene Yeoh moved up 212 places to #312.
The only change on the men’s side in the top 15 is Felix swapping places with Truls at #6. Tomo is just 50 points behind Hugo for #3.
Lilian Bardet moved up 43 places to #41. For American players, most notable (to me at least) is Ved Sheth moving up 125 places to #291. Xiangjing (Sean) Zhang gets his first ranking at #257. Victor Xie and Nishant Lebaka also made big gains.
In the junior rankings, Miwa and Felix have more than double the points of the #2 player.
AJ Scott
Yes, a massive move for Zhu Yuling, the former world's no. 1. She looks like she still has enough game to become the world's no. 1 again, but, according to this video, she is no longer eligible to play in the majors anymore: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWnG7wfCuQ
I'm a little confused by that, bc I was under the impression that the ITTF had changed that rule recently. Does anybody know if what's said in the video is true or not?
Dan Wang
AJ Scott
This vid points a button on the inaugural US Smash--the Highlights Show/US Smash 2025: