Question Regarding Distributions

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David Reich

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Jun 28, 2025, 9:41:18 AMJun 28
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Dear Group,
I am trying to understand how a distribution should be made from a NY LLC with respect to capital contributions and expenses. The operating agreement provides an equity percentage and a profit/loss percentage for the members. The OA does not specifically state that expenses are treated as capital contributions but it does allude to it. In my case, the LLC had a loss.
I have spoken to a number of accountants and attorneys but they are not sure.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
David

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Mindy H. Stern

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Jun 30, 2025, 10:01:58 AMJun 30
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David what circumstances are you describing here? Can you give some specific examples of expenses (paid by whom.and for what) you are thinking should be treated as a capital contribution? 

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David Reich

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Jun 30, 2025, 2:24:23 PMJun 30
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Mindy,
Thank you for reaching out.
In my case, we are mostly talking about school, village and county taxes. We also talking about some accounting fees.
David 


Bruce Steiner

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Jun 30, 2025, 4:04:39 PMJun 30
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David,

 

If the members put in the money to pay for these expenses, or if the members pay these expenses directly, how else could you treat them other than capital contributions by the members and payment of expenses by the LLC?

 

 

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Mindy,

Thank you for reaching out.

In my case, we are mostly talking about school, village and county taxes. We also talking about some accounting fees.

David 

 

 

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David what circumstances are you describing here? Can you give some specific examples of expenses (paid by whom.and for what) you are thinking should be treated as a capital contribution? 

 

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David Reich

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Jun 30, 2025, 4:09:52 PMJun 30
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Bruce,
Thank you for reaching out.
In my case, the members who paid real estate taxes, are trying to claim that those expenses get taken off the top and then the balance gets distributed.
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Mindy H. Stern

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Jun 30, 2025, 4:37:47 PMJun 30
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David I agree with Bruce. Whether they are reimbursed “off the top” or otherwise, if the members pay these expenses it’s hard to understand how they would not be treated as capital contributions.

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David Reich

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Jun 30, 2025, 6:10:49 PMJun 30
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Mindy,
But the ultimate question is whether or not these expenses get taken off the top. Sort of like a tax credit which is dollar for dollar.
By the way, one accountant told me that he thinks that there is an IRS regulation that requires that real estate taxes get treated as a capital contribution.
Thanks for your help.
David 

Paul Fried

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Jun 30, 2025, 6:10:52 PMJun 30
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Unless expressly paid as “member loans” under the operating agreement?

 

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Mindy H. Stern

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Jun 30, 2025, 9:42:51 PMJun 30
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Sure. But that would require some additional paperwork and terms to clearly distinguish from the other categories as the OA dictates and was not contemplated in David’s question.

 

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Unless expressly paid as “member loans” under the operating agreement?

Nancy Gastel

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Jul 24, 2025, 10:04:11 AMJul 24
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A friend owns some shopping centers and says that he uses the LLC’s dividends from depreciation (in equal value) to  pay for repairs/upgrades.  His property LLC’s are in a trust.  When I asked a seasoned accountant, he could not understand how the dividends could be taken for depreciation and be used for repairs.  Do you have any guidance on this.  I am hoping to fund a facade renovation.  

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Bruce Steiner

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Jul 24, 2025, 12:54:57 PMJul 24
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I don’t know what he’s asking.  Money is fungible.  Unless the operating agreement provides otherwise, the LLCs may use whatever money it has or can borrow to pay for repairs and improvements, or the members may contribute money to the LLC to pay for them.

 

If he’s asking about the tax consequences of any of this, I or many other lawyers could help him with that.

 

 

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Date: July 24, 2025 at 10:04:35AM EDT



A friend owns some shopping centers and says that he uses the LLC’s dividends from depreciation (in equal value) to pay for repairs/upgrades.  His property LLC’s are in a trust.  When I asked a seasoned accountant, he could not understand how the dividends could be taken for depreciation and be used for repairs.  Do you have any guidance on this.  I am hoping to fund a facade renovation.  

Thanks Nancy (770) 578-1067

 

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David Reich

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Jul 24, 2025, 1:13:22 PMJul 24
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Nancy,
I concur with Bruce Steiner's response. 
The "dividends" used for repairs could either be loans to the entity or the funds would initially increase the contributing members' capital contributions and then decrease the members' capital contributions when the repairs are paid for.
The guiding factor is the operating agreement.
David 

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