There is no Sunday, January 30 on my calendar! Either the 22nd or the
29th will work for me - subject to Mother Nature's whims and what she has planned for I-25 between here and Albuquerque.
Rather than waiting for the storm to pass, learn to dance in the rain.
Ruth and the BluChip Beardies
My surgery was pushed back a week so I will be on my way to
ABQ on the 22nd so definitely not able to be there at mid day.
Then they have made a big deal of this surgery so I will likely
still be in the hospital on the 29th. Therefore I guess you have
to count me out of either of those days for the meeting. I just
like to steward. Would hate to see such a long time organization
pass away but if people are not interested in doing the job it is
very hard.
Donna Gates and GPIHC-S AKC GCh Ch Benjy, RAE, CGC, TT, HOF
I am interested in continuing the club.
I forgot to pay my dues. Can you please post Kathy's address again. I think that is where it is to be sent. .............??
I will not be attending any meetings, because I am too far away.
Bonnie Stoney
Lol. Okay, Sunday January 29th. What I get for not having my calendar with me. Meh.
There is no Sunday, January 30 on my calendar! Either the 22nd or the
29th will work for me - subject to Mother Nature's whims and what she has planned for I-25 between here and Albuquerque.
Rather than waiting for the storm to pass, learn to dance in the rain.
Ruth and the BluChip Beardies
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Subject: Annual Meeting
Hi everyone,
There has been minimal response from members paying annual dues that were requested to be paid by January 1. Just a reminder....maybe something you meant to do but at the bottom of your list? After Christmas budgets can be sticky for sure.
We'd like to call an annual meeting of all NMSA members for Sunday January 30 in Albuquerque. I'm thinking of the Macaroni Grill. Had originally thought about this weekend but have dragged my feet so long that there isn't much time to make plans. Please respond to this note and let your officers know your thoughts on:
1) your interest in continuing NMSA as an organization2) whether you will attend the annual meeting and which of the two Sundays you prefer. It will be a mid day meeting, with plenty of time to shop/travel before and after.
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I just had a thought..............instead of mailing a check for
dues............what about accepting dues via Paypal? We can send
them to Kathleen as "Friends and Family". No charge to sender, as
long as the payment is not connected with a credit card. No
charge to the club, as long as it is sent Friends and Family. The
club can have a verified account linked to a bank account and when
the membership is paid, Kathleen simply "transfers" the membership
dues to the bank account. Super simple........fast.........and
more likely to get dues paid in a timely manner, I think.
Bonnie
Thanks, Laurel. It's just important for everyone to have a voice hence this meeting. Fwiw, I share your feelings. :)
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Given the feelings expressed by some members, I question whether
I should even send in my membership dues????? I guess I will wait
until after the scheduled meeting, and based on decisions there, I
will know whether to send dues to Kathleen.
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I will go along with Bonnie, I still feel WE serve the dog show world by hopefully making the judges work easier, some of us like the association with DOGS, even not having a dog to show I enjoy just going and seeing and getting to mix and mingle. Donna
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Laurel, I have a thought........don't know if you have tried it, or if it is currently possible..........but, what about having the person scheduling the stewards, schedule you so that you could at least go watch the hound breed most important to you? In my case, being I show Shar-Pei, I get time scheduled to go show my dogs and then I go back to my stewarding ring. I really enjoy watching the various breeds and meeting new people of various breeds.
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We try to do that though, Bonnie. Obviously you can't steward a ring you'd be showing in later and in one, two or three days later. We just had that issue back in May at the Albuquerque shows. Truth be told there are simply not enough of us to cover the rings adequately. I hate NMSA to not be "all we can be", but realistically, no. Nevertheless, it will be up to the membership going forward.
Laurel, I have a thought........don't know if you have tried it, or if it is currently possible..........but, what about having the person scheduling the stewards, schedule you so that you could at least go watch the hound breed most important to you? In my case, being I show Shar-Pei, I get time scheduled to go show my dogs and then I go back to my stewarding ring. I really enjoy watching the various breeds and meeting new people of various breeds.
Bonnie
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But Donna, when you are working, you cannot do much mixing and mingling if you paying attention to the ring and your judge and doing a good job. Jogging off to mix and mingle just isn't possible when there is just one of you at the ring. Yes, you can talk to some of the folks immediately around the ring if you aren't busy, but that isn't possible if you are busy, and with often one steward, it can be hectic. If you want to work for that club and steward, I'm sure you'd always be welcome. I enjoy stewarding too, but not when I feel like I've been run over by a steam roller at the end of the day and didn't even get to talk to the hound people.Laurel
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I will go along with Bonnie, I still feel WE serve the dog show world by hopefully making the judges work easier, some of us like the association with DOGS, even not having a dog to show I enjoy just going and seeing and getting to mix and mingle. Donna Miller
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Phyllis, I don't understand why it wouldn't work for Laurel to view one hound breed of her choice during each day? If she were exhibiting, she would still be able to steward............. Yes, it may take a bit more work to work out a schedule, but being the chief steward for the Southern Colorado shows, I juggle ring schedules to accommodate all of my stewards. So, to me, it seems doable.....
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Not sure what I can say here. There would be no problem in doing that IF we had ample coverage to do a decent job. In Roswell, we had four rings. We had 5 stewards, at least 2 of whom were also grooming and showing, so not a lot of time for anyone to step away for potty breaks or to ex their dogs. Twenty years ago, NMSA was a big, successful organization. We could easily allow people to watch rings and care for their dogs. With dwindling membership and some with declining health we aren't that any more. I just hate to see an organization that had so much pride at one time looking bad.
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There are several things that have led to the predicament we are in with NMSA. A lot of us (me included) are getting to old and in bad health to do any more than table steward. Those of us who are left are reluctant to suggest to anybody else to join us because of the bickering, backbiting and lack of training that has lifted it's ugly head recently. It's too bad because as someone on the other end (hiring stewards now being show Chair) I am really sorry it has come to this. The stewards club makes the show what it is. It's so much easier on the chair to have it there. I don't think there is any need for 2 stewards per ring (I'm talking about conformation only). The 2nd person would go as a trainee and work the table. Those of us who have been stewarding for awhile can very easily handle a ring by themselves. I notice Palm Springs only have one per ring as other shows. Frankly I would rather handle it alone anyway. You get in a rhythm and it goes so much better. If it is to continue (and I hope it does) things have to change in the way it is handled and will require a lot of work on all of us to get more recruts to handle the rings adequately. I'm not talking about obedience because they have been known to step up and help out when needed. See you on Sunday.
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Wow, I had no idea this was going on. Of course, I have only
worked with the club in May, so I guess I have just been in my own
world. I generally steward alone.
Jan, I thoroughly enjoy ring stewarding and I apologize if I did not recognize, help or encourage you. I am sure I would have seen you, but being I only steward in Albuquerque, I don't know all of the club members, I probably thought you were a long time member. I live in Colorado, so don't do all of the NM shows. Please hang in there, if the club continues..............and I hope that it does.
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But Donna, when you are working, you cannot do much mixing and mingling if you paying attention to the ring and your judge and doing a good job. Jogging off to mix and mingle just isn't possible when there is just one of you at the ring. Yes, you can talk to some of the folks immediately around the ring if you aren't busy, but that isn't possible if you are busy, and with often one steward, it can be hectic. If you want to work for that club and steward, I'm sure you'd always be welcome. I enjoy stewarding too, but not when I feel like I've been run over by a steam roller at the end of the day and didn't even get to talk to the hound people.Laurel
Meeting is from 1-3. We do have reservations at Macaroni Grill starting at noon this coming Sunday, so y'all can eat ahead of time.
Kathleen's address is 201C Jaymar Rd., Stanley, NM.
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In my own defense, I have never left the ring while it was running, even to go to the bathroom, let alone mingling. The word MINGLING, is to be with people with the same likes I do, DOGS. Sorry for this but I was a bit put off with this. Please know the person and how they respect themselves and the job they do. this very thing is why we can't get and keep new younger people . not wishing to fall into this type of belittlement I think I've said more than I should . Just, please know the person and how they treat all the jobs they are assigned before insulting them over one word that means different things to different people. Donna Miller
Very well put, Laurel.
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Thanks, Laurel. It's just important for everyone to have a voice hence this meeting. Fwiw, I share your feelings. :)
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I won't be able to be at the meeing, Phyllis. I'm still here in Topeka, and we still don't know when I can plan to come home. Honestly, watching all the club members of NMSA with both their physical problems, their personality clashes, and how things have been playing out in the past year or so, I don't think this Club can continue. We simply can't seem to find a young enough and healthy enough group to properly staff a show any more let alone a 4-day or so show. It's a constant struggle to find enough stewards to do anything for obedience, and when obedience is offered, that's where I want to be, which means at least half the time I'm not around for conformation classes. I love stewarding, but when we get complaints because we can't cover a ring decently, I think it's time to let the shows do their own coverage. I DO want to watch greyhounds, and most of the time, when I'm stewarding I can't get loose for even that limited amount of time. I don't get to see my breed because when I work for the Club, my time is for the club. I believe that most of our younger members don't seem to have that dedication, no criticism just my observation. It's that way in most activities of any kind these days.Another question is how many ACTIVE members are actually out there stewarding. Shows have gotten more and more complicated which means we need to have some stewarding classes for the variety of classes which have been constantly added in both obed. and conf. How many stewards do we have are simply under age 60? Think about it; all dog activities are having a hard time finding new, younger members. I believe that shows, like many other live animal activities are dying. People don't have the commitment to long term sports; they'd rather watch tv or video games and such. That's just the way of a changing world.I'm sorry if I sound like a wet blanket, but I think we need to take a hard look at dog shows and trials in general. Dog SPORTS/GAMES/ACTIVITIES are fairly popular because AKC has started throwing in more and more of them and opening them to mixed breeds. I know they say its because it will cause those new folks to get "real" breeds, but I don't think its happening. AKC needs more $$ to keep alive, and only by accessing a 'new' population can they do so.After thinking this over for a couple months--without any 'dog person' input since I'm up here in Topeka and not in contact with many dog folks, I hate to say it, but I think it's time for NMSA to fold its tents and let the individual clubs all over NM and the neighboring states take over. If this is brought up as a vote at the annual meeting, my vote is to disband the club much as it hurts me to do so. I can't travel as easily as I used to, and I know that several of our most active members are in the same boat. If the younger members can't or won't actually take over and run things, it's time to say farewell.Laurel Drew
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Hi everyone,There has been minimal response from members paying annual dues that were requested to be paid by January 1. Just a reminder....maybe something you meant to do but at the bottom of your list? After Christmas budgets can be sticky for sure.We'd like to call an annual meeting of all NMSA members for Sunday January 30 in Albuquerque. I'm thinking of the Macaroni Grill. Had originally thought about this weekend but have dragged my feet so long that there isn't much time to make plans. Please respond to this note and let your officers know your thoughts on:1) your interest in continuing NMSA as an organization2) whether you will attend the annual meeting and which of the two Sundays you prefer. It will be a mid day meeting, with plenty of time to shop/travel before and after.--Phyllis McNallSingltrak ShorthairsAKC Breeder of MeritMcIntosh, NM"Look To'the Past, Breed For The Future"
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We all need to step back and take a look at ourselves. Think about the purpose of New Mexico Stewards Association. Anyone remember the words, "we baby our judges". It's in our ad that goes into the show catalogs.
It's nice to be paid, and get lunch and parking and all the perks, but....Is that what NMSA wants to be known for? Or is it a happy club and happy judges? I can tell you without a doubt that many of the smaller clubs (mine included) are hard pressed to afford us and likely will not for 2017. I'm not saying this applies to everyone, we have several members who are very professional, but the overall impression of NMSA now is not good.
This is what I am trying to tell you, guys. I love to steward, and I'd hate to see us go down the tubes, but otoh, please understand that reputation is earned.
See you Sunday.
I am under 60...I still work my regular job...Was fired in Nov, but am starting over now...I love to steward and do All I can...I agree we need new membersBut how?Pay, parking, meals, and you get to be around dogs... Perfect situation if you ask me!My recent finances(last five years) made travel impossible.Ask the junior handlers.ArleneSent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID
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We will be sending out information on the meeting asap. If you have not paid your dues, you will need to do so. Dues are $15 for the year.
Many headed for Hobbs and Arizona shows this week, good luck to all.
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