Trouble Issue Changing MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi

[Jon D.]

I am changing ISPs.  In trying to changeover my MOD-SIX Lumina WiFi from an existing WiFi from the old router to a new and different WiFi router, my procedure is NOT working.  Both the prior (soon to be off) WiFi and new WiFi are on and up.  

I can see the MOD-SIX Lumina web server on the WiFi IP it says it is on (the old router).  When I try to change the WiFi to the new SSID and PW via the Lumina online web server, it shows the new WiFi SSID as an option, it takes the SSID and PW input for the new WiFi router, and nothing happens.  

I also tried doing this next to the MOD-SIX Lumina using my phone, but my phone shows the MOD-SIX "network" as "disconnected".  Something is amiss.

Is there a trick to doing this ??

Jon J.

[gregebert]

I had a similar problem with a different WiFi device, in this case it was a wireless camera. When I got my new WiFi router from my new ISP, I set the SSID and password to be the same as the previous router, so that it would be a "seamless" transition. Well, for most WiFi devices (laptops, phones, tablets), that was true. But for some odd reason, the camera did not connect to my new router, even after multiple reboots/power cycling of the new router and the camera.

After the camera was shut-down for a few weeks, then powered-up, for some unexplained reason it linked-up with the new WiFi router. I have no explanation why, and it's frustrating because I was ready to do some low-level debugging.

[Allen]

You will have trouble sometimes if your router uses the same SSID for 2.4 ghz and 5ghz.

I have split my router to two SSIDs 

“MyRouter2.4” and “MyRouter5”

Good luck,

Allen

Allen Wisbey, W1SBY

On Feb 17, 2024, at 10:19 PM, gregebert <greg...@hotmail.com> wrote:

I had a similar problem with a different WiFi device, in this case it was a wireless camera. When I got my new WiFi router from my new ISP, I set the SSID and password to be the same as the previous router, so that it would be a "seamless" transition. Well, for most WiFi devices (laptops, phones, tablets), that was true. But for some odd reason, the camera did not connect to my new router, even after multiple reboots/power cycling of the new router and the camera.

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[H. Carl Ott]

Hi Jon,

    Sorry you are having difficulties. Sometimes wifi can be troublesome.

      Take a look at the user manual section on how to access the recovery menu.

      The CLRNET entry will wipe the wifi configuration entirely. 

      You should then be able to use your phone to set up the wifi just like the initial setup.

 

    Hopefully this clears the issue. 

     Let us know if this gets it working.

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[David Pye]

Of course there's always the lazy option.

Update your new router to use the same SSID and password as the old one so everything JUST WORKS (TM).

David 

[Jon D.]

OK, success after about 35 minutes !!  Two (2) sets of LESSONS LEARNED below, one set for each Nixie clock I worked to changeover to a new network this weekend.

LESSONS LEARNED SET #1: After finding Carl's CLRNET procedure reference in the RECOVERY MODE section of the MOD-SIX Lumina manual (Appendix K), I performed that and saw an initial "Lost IP" message on reboot, but the old IP came back.  Turns out it was only temporary because I don't think I went out through -EXIT- after entering CLRNET.  (I also turned off the old router just in case MOD-SIX Lumina clock was locking up to it faster than I was trying to leave it.  I don't think that had any bearing on my eventual success.)  I repeated the CLRNET with -EXIT- this time, and the "Lost IP" message stuck and repeated.

Then the battle was with my phone connecting to the MOD-SIX network.  I had my phone within a foot or two of the clock (even though it was at the top of a set of shelves).  It seemed to be hit or miss if the MOD-SIX network would show up (but it was no longer shown as "disconnected" as yesterday...PROGRESS).  But it did show up occasionally.  And finally, once it did, I went into the setup and selected the new network, but it didn't work at first (there is a new mesh router satellite repeater with the new network withinh 15 feet of the MOD-SIX Lumina, so distance should not be an issue).  After several "rinse and repeat" cycles, the MOD-SIX finally asked for the password, which I entered (documented in the Lumina manual).  I entered the MOD-SIX password and then had to wait for the network list to show up on my phone to choose from.  Once that did, I selected the new network, entered that password, and success.  WHAT A RELIEF !!!

Thanks to all for the suggestions.  (Changing the new router SSID to be the same as the old network was NOT an option.  Too many WiFi devices were already on it, and the family was very happy with the new mesh router satellite connectivity around the house.  I didn't dare change that for fear of my life...)

LESSONS LEARNED SET #2: And one OTHER rather interesting WiFi changeover lesson learned.  This was with my Dalibor Farny R|Z568M Zen clock yesterday which took me about 2 hours.  Turns out the app Dalibor has you use (Android for me) to change WiFi networks has an issue with newer phones.  On my Pixel 8, the buttons would not function (so I could not select a network !!).  After trying several times on my new phone to connect to a network but without buttons working, I carefully read the instructions line by line and found a note that stated if issues with the app arose, try an older phone.  So I dug out my (now old) Pixel 3 XL phone (now WiFi only), and it allowed the buttons in the app to function to select a new network !!!  Whew, thank goodness that finally worked as I was worn out by this point, and thanks to the web page for documenting that "feature" !!!

So those two Nixie clocks were the big challenges of the weekend and are now on the new network.  Again, thanks to Carl for pointing out the CLRNET mode for the MOD-SIX Lumina to close out this thread !!

Cheers,

Jon J.