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threeneurons

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Apr 11, 2014, 2:19:46 PM4/11/14
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These were just featured on eBay's home page:

eBay item: http://www.ebay.com/itm/110992289751

Reminds me of the c,ock in my office:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7z7xo_time-bucket-first-single-dekatron-c_tech

These guys have no originality ! 




Tidak Ada

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Apr 11, 2014, 4:47:26 PM4/11/14
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Hmmm. I am afraid it is really a coincidence. Also there is so much difference there will be no judge who should be convinced by you. They made the cases of a piece of bamboo (that's no wood but grass!)  turned it in a lath.
You used  the principle of barrel making and used different kinds of wood and did cut of the bottom. They use a separate piece of bamboo for the stand.
Sorry, no chance for a successful sue ;-)


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threeneurons

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Apr 12, 2014, 3:01:23 PM4/12/14
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I know. Its just that it popped out, when I went to eBay, yesterday. They want over $400, for a pair of relatively small speakers, that can't possibly have sound to match that price !

I attend the annual CES show in Las Vegas regularly. I use to visit the "high end"/audiophile rooms. A lot of the products are pure "snake oil". But some of the speakers had cabinetry, that were done by master wood workers. Even if the speakers inside are just crappy pieces of cardboard, with two wires sticking out. They were asking as much as $30,000 a piece (not "a pair") for some. A few seemed even worth it, just for the quality of the wood work !

These "eBay" speakers ... eh 

Quixotic Nixotic

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Apr 12, 2014, 4:58:55 PM4/12/14
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On 12 Apr 2014, at 20:01, threeneurons wrote:

> I know. Its just that it popped out, when I went to eBay, yesterday. They want over $400, for a pair of relatively small speakers, that can't possibly have sound to match that price !

As a designer of more years than I care to admit, I see archetypal shapes that appear and reappear over the years and slicing a cylinder at oblique angles is one of these ideas and the example of Threeneurons' is excellent work. The tube on a stand is something else entirely. Apples and pears.

I used to study slicing the platonic solids and crystallography to get the fundamental basics of geometry to see what places I could go with 3D solid structures.

I originally trained as an architect, but product design is way more interesting to me. Many of the things I used to dream up have now come to fruition.

The book that most influenced me was Keith Critchlow's, "Order in Space - a design source book", which I am happy to see is still in print.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Order-Space-Design-Source-Book/dp/0500340331.

Keith was a lecturer at London's Architectural Association, which is not the kind of architectural association you might imagine, a trade body of some kind, but a highly regarded school of architecture. I believe Keith only had/has one eye, so perhaps this led to his deep interest in geometry in making sense of a 3D world he could not see well for himself. He discovered a new single space-filling solid (it is in the book) which attracted the admiration of Buckminster Fuller.

I thought that the five platonic solids were the only ones that could be formed from equal sided convex shapes until my father, a PhD geologist, told me I was talking a crock of nonsense and gave me a book on crystals, featuring some skewed solids that had 'handedness', yet were made from one size and shape of polygon with equal length sides. I was fascinated by it all.

Philosophically the harmony of the spheres and geometry became to me like a religion, full of wonder and beauty and amazement. I think mathematicians see much of this in the property of numbers, but I am personally too stupid to comprehend them.

In recent years I have found Catmull-Clark and to a lesser extent Doo-Sabin subdivision surfaces to be the most innovative development in 3D design that I have seen happen in millennia. At last we have a way of taming accurately dimensioned compound curved surfaces in 3D in a coherent and predictable way, resolution independent in that they can be subdivided again and again making it purer and purer. The proliferation of products today we see with pleasing curves rather than angles is testimony to our new ability.

It takes a whole new mindset to design with subdivision surfaces.

In the days when we all had to draw at the drawing board on flat paper, with set squares and pens, it was no wonder that hard angles predominated. It would take ages to accurately plot and draw intersections of tubes, or a slice across a tube, in plan and two elevations. We tended to think in the ways that we could convey our concepts in flat drawing form, unless we could sculpt it rather than draw it. But engineering people wanted flat drawings to work from, not a lump of something physical. "Yes, but where are your drawings?" they would cry.

We can now all model in 3D convincingly and accurately. Then we can add bones and animate our meshes. Texture it up, add some particle effects and physics and everyone is their own Pixar.

John S

Quixotic Nixotic

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Apr 12, 2014, 5:14:25 PM4/12/14
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I often use a classic 555 nixie power supply as I find they always work for me and are very tolerant of any PCB layout abuse I submit them to in my infinite ignorance.

My question is: "Is there a simple way of switching a 555-generated timer off from a 5v logic gate, as I would like it to go to sleep when I send a PIC to sleep."

Thank you in anticipation,

John S

Quixotic Nixotic

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Apr 12, 2014, 5:34:35 PM4/12/14
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I just wanted to say how pleased I am with some little I2C modules that seem to be sold everywhere by the Chinese. They work really well.

They have a DS3231 clock, with socketed battery backup including the rechargeable battery, an AT24C32 memory with 4096 bytes of memory, all necessary pullups for everything, including the memory chip select bits, an on LED and a thru bus for adding more stuff onto the I2C chain. At a price that is way less than I can buy the individual parts. All soldered up for me on a PCB. How do they do it? I can get three of these delivered for the cost of one beer in a London pub.



John S

Michel van der Meij

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Apr 12, 2014, 6:03:24 PM4/12/14
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Hi John,
 
I use the attached circuit in my ZX81 nixie clock and works great. On J7 pin 1 is the 12V input (mine is 9V btw). Pin 2 can be pulled down to gnd with an open collector circuit which will then power up the 555 circuit. The gate of Q5 is normally kept high by resistor R16 which prevents Q5 from conducting. R16 is not critical, you can also choose a 10K resistor, doesn't matter for as long as the gate is kept high and the open collector transistor can drive it low.
 
Best regards,
Michel
 
 
 
 
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Quixotic Nixotic

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Apr 13, 2014, 1:35:19 AM4/13/14
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On 12 Apr 2014, at 23:03, Michel van der Meij wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> I use the attached circuit in my ZX81 nixie clock and works great. On J7 pin 1 is the 12V input (mine is 9V btw). Pin 2 can be pulled down to gnd with an open collector circuit which will then power up the 555 circuit. The gate of Q5 is normally kept high by resistor R16 which prevents Q5 from conducting. R16 is not critical, you can also choose a 10K resistor, doesn't matter for as long as the gate is kept high and the open collector transistor can drive it low.
>
> Best regards,
> Michel

Thank you Michel, that was very helpful information.

John S

Gary Gaspar

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Apr 19, 2014, 6:00:14 PM4/19/14
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what a shameless plug mike ? yes the clock has a better case
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Mich...@aol.com

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Apr 20, 2014, 3:25:04 PM4/20/14
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I would much rather buy the clock than the speakers.
No link to the clock on ebay?  Heh.
 
Michail
 
 
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what a shameless plug mike ? yes the clock has a better case
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These were just featured on eBay's home page:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NDU4WDY1NA==/z/n4MAAOxyUgtTPBtU/$_57.JPG
Reminds me of the c,ock in my office:
http://threeneurons.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/time_bucket04.jpg?w=500&h=400
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threeneurons

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Apr 23, 2014, 2:56:50 PM4/23/14
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Its my personal clock. I made it years ago. Like I said earlier, these speakers just popped up on eBay, and made me think of that clock. I'm proud of that clock. No problems at all with it. The photos, for it date to 2005, so its at least that old.
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