Dekachron - new dekatron clock

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Jon

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May 16, 2021, 12:09:57 PM5/16/21
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The discussion in a recent thread about different glow patterns on a dekatron reminds me that it’s high time I shared with you my latest clock… This is Dekachron, a 3 tube dekatron clock.

 Dekachron main view (cropped).jpg

Just to explain what’s going on here - Dekachron uses a rather different way of displaying time than the approach used by most dekatron clocks (eg those by Ronald Dekker and Andreas Reinert). Typically one would have tubes arranged in pairs like a nixie clock, indicating the hours (tens and units), minutes (tens and units) and maybe seconds too. The position of the glowing dot on the dekatron display denotes the digit value. So we’d display 08:25 like this:

 Display HHMM.png

However, Dekachron uses its dekatrons as a series of analogue clock faces, one for hours, one for minutes and one for seconds. On each one it lights up a sector of the circular display that corresponds to the position of the relevant hand on a traditional analogue clock. So Dekachron displays 08:25 like this:

 

 Display HM.png

It's surprisingly easy to read with a little practice, because it taps into how you learned to tell the time as a child. Displaying the time in this way allows us to get a H:M:S display with only three tubes and also opens the door to all kinds of funky visual effects, some of which are shown in this short video (https://youtu.be/5LtvPJZnqM8).

 If anyone is interested to build a Dekachron, a few kits are available – PM me.

Jon.

newxito

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May 16, 2021, 12:57:28 PM5/16/21
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That's a beautiful clock! 
I have some A101 lying around, I should do something with them... 

Ian Vine

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May 16, 2021, 1:57:30 PM5/16/21
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That is a cool design

On 16 May 2021, at 17:10, Jon <deka...@nomotron.com> wrote:



The discussion in a recent thread about different glow patterns on a dekatron reminds me that it’s high time I shared with you my latest clock… This is Dekachron, a 3 tube dekatron clock.

 

<Dekachron main view (cropped).jpg>

Just to explain what’s going on here - Dekachron uses a rather different way of displaying time than the approach used by most dekatron clocks (eg those by Ronald Dekker and Andreas Reinert). Typically one would have tubes arranged in pairs like a nixie clock, indicating the hours (tens and units), minutes (tens and units) and maybe seconds too. The position of the glowing dot on the dekatron display denotes the digit value. So we’d display 08:25 like this:

 

<Display HHMM.png>

However, Dekachron uses its dekatrons as a series of analogue clock faces, one for hours, one for minutes and one for seconds. On each one it lights up a sector of the circular display that corresponds to the position of the relevant hand on a traditional analogue clock. So Dekachron displays 08:25 like this:

 

 

<Display HM.png>

It's surprisingly easy to read with a little practice, because it taps into how you learned to tell the time as a child. Displaying the time in this way allows us to get a H:M:S display with only three tubes and also opens the door to all kinds of funky visual effects, some of which are shown in this short video (https://youtu.be/5LtvPJZnqM8).

 If anyone is interested to build a Dekachron, a few kits are available – PM me.

Jon.

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gregebert

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May 16, 2021, 2:10:28 PM5/16/21
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What speed are you running the dekatrons ?

Jon

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May 16, 2021, 2:33:31 PM5/16/21
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The design needs the tubes to run at 4kpps to get all of the persistence of vision effects to work smoothly. In the video you're looking at ETL GC10B and GC12/4B - the clock auto-configures itself to work fine with any mix of those and equivalents (GC10/4B, CV2271, Z303C) and Sylvania 6802. Although I've described it as a H:M:S display, actually you can assign any function (including cool visual effects) to any tube in software, so it's very flexible.

The common Russian neon dekatrons (A101, OG4, OG9) won't work however, at least per datasheet, as their max speeds are not high enough. And the octal base tubes have a different pin-out (but that's a trivial change, obviously).

Jon.

Michail Wilson

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May 16, 2021, 4:25:44 PM5/16/21
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Looking forward to the kit.

 

Michail Wilson

206-920-6312

 

From: neoni...@googlegroups.com <neoni...@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Jon
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Subject: [neonixie-l] Dekachron - new dekatron clock

 

The discussion in a recent thread about different glow patterns on a dekatron reminds me that it’s high time I shared with you my latest clock… This is Dekachron, a 3 tube dekatron clock.

 

Just to explain what’s going on here - Dekachron uses a rather different way of displaying time than the approach used by most dekatron clocks (eg those by Ronald Dekker and Andreas Reinert). Typically one would have tubes arranged in pairs like a nixie clock, indicating the hours (tens and units), minutes (tens and units) and maybe seconds too. The position of the glowing dot on the dekatron display denotes the digit value. So we’d display 08:25 like this:

 

However, Dekachron uses its dekatrons as a series of analogue clock faces, one for hours, one for minutes and one for seconds. On each one it lights up a sector of the circular display that corresponds to the position of the relevant hand on a traditional analogue clock. So Dekachron displays 08:25 like this:

 

 

It's surprisingly easy to read with a little practice, because it taps into how you learned to tell the time as a child. Displaying the time in this way allows us to get a H:M:S display with only three tubes and also opens the door to all kinds of funky visual effects, some of which are shown in this short video (https://youtu.be/5LtvPJZnqM8).

 If anyone is interested to build a Dekachron, a few kits are available – PM me.

Jon.

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Jon

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May 18, 2021, 2:39:40 PM5/18/21
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Michail wrote:

> Looking forward to the kit.

Yes - to Michail's point and also to those who've emailed me asking the same question, there are a handful of Dekachron kits available now. Several different options from a full kit including tubes and the enclosure in the video down to PCB and components only. If anyone is interested or has questions, send me a private message so we don't clutter the group chat with that stuff.

Jon.



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