US source for French Enamel Varnish - Fire Red?

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Robert L

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May 19, 2019, 11:03:49 AM5/19/19
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Hi folks,

A bit of an old topic, but I'm trying to find a US source of French Enamel Varnish (FEV) - Fire Red... Found multiple sources in the UK, but FEV is restricted for shipping to the US.

Yes, there are multiple posts on the group discussing FEV and alternatives used with varying degrees of success. If possible, I'd like to use FEV rather than an alternative, but just not finding a source in the US.

Anyone know of a US based supplier with a web presence?

Many thanks!
Bob

Nicholas Stock

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May 19, 2019, 11:23:44 AM5/19/19
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Bob, i used Pebeo Vitrail glass paint from Amazon....worked a treat.

Nick

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Robert L

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May 19, 2019, 10:41:29 PM5/19/19
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Many thanks folks... including a couple of private messages...

Bought this on Amazon:  Pebeo Vitrail Glass Paint 45Ml Crimson


Now to create a small dust free space with decent ventilation!

Onward!

Bob

【ツ】John Smout

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May 20, 2019, 2:47:31 AM5/20/19
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I have tried water based Pebeo Vitrail and been unable to get an even coating. It dries quite slowly and I get a gradation as the coating slides down due to gravity. Admittedly I was trying to coat 200mm test tubes, not a small nixie. Maybe it’s OK for that but don’t try and coat a Dalibor.

You can make your own FEV, french enamel varnish, if you buy shellac, available as dry flakes or liquid, some methylated spirits (aka denatured alcohol), and some spirit dye of a suitable hue (usually this is a powder). Mix to suit.

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Robert L

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May 20, 2019, 11:24:42 AM5/20/19
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Hey John,

From your reply: I have tried water based Pebeo Vitrail and been unable to get an even coating.

The product I have on order is specified as a solvent based formulation that may be thinned with mineral or white spirit... not a water based solution. Not clear this is what you previously used.

In any case, I'd already placed the order and will give it a try! I'll report back here on my experience.

Thanks for your comments and best regards,
Bob


【ツ】John Smout

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May 20, 2019, 1:53:41 PM5/20/19
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The stuff I bought is called Pebeo Vitrea 160. I thought I was buying the spirit stuff. Be careful out there, as it’s an easy mistake to make.

John S

Robert G. Schaffrath

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Oct 6, 2019, 5:29:12 PM10/6/19
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I had been wondering if water based Tamiya X-27 might be usable. I really like the brightness of the ZM1022's with the clear glass (ZM1020's have red coating) and was debating trying to color a few to see what they would look like. The nice thing is any mistakes or changes of mind can be removed.

Nicholas Stock

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Oct 6, 2019, 5:37:07 PM10/6/19
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Robert, I posted on this a while back. I used Pebeo Vitrail Glass paint (not the water based stuff)...diluted 4:1 with Mineral Spirits. Here's a B7971. The finish is factory good.

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Michail Wilson

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Oct 6, 2019, 10:03:25 PM10/6/19
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I love it.

 

I have done that to some flame flicker bulbs.  Same formula.

Takes a long time to dry, but nice finish.

 

Michail Wilson

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Robert G. Schaffrath

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Oct 7, 2019, 11:57:13 AM10/7/19
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Wow, that is fantastic. It does look "factory".

The reason I brought Tamiya paint up is my late grandfather had made Christmas lights for my parents after they were married (they were based on real Christmas tree candle holders that he fashioned electric looking "candles" for). At the time, he colored #46 bulbs amber using radio dial light paint that was basically colored plastic dissolved in butyl acetate (he had worked for Hammarlund so had access to all kinds of electronic repair items). When I eventually needed to replace burned out bulbs, I wound up using Tamiya X-26 clear orange to color the new bulbs. That had gotten me thinking that X-27 clear red might work. However, seeing how that glass paint comes out, the finish is far superior.


On Sunday, October 6, 2019 at 5:37:07 PM UTC-4, Pramanicin wrote:
Robert, I posted on this a while back. I used Pebeo Vitrail Glass paint (not the water based stuff)...diluted 4:1 with Mineral Spirits. Here's a B7971. The finish is factory good.

Finished Article.jpg



On Sun, Oct 6, 2019 at 2:29 PM Robert G. Schaffrath <robert.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
I had been wondering if water based Tamiya X-27 might be usable. I really like the brightness of the ZM1022's with the clear glass (ZM1020's have red coating) and was debating trying to color a few to see what they would look like. The nice thing is any mistakes or changes of mind can be removed.

On Sunday, May 19, 2019 at 11:03:49 AM UTC-4, Robert L wrote:
Hi folks,

A bit of an old topic, but I'm trying to find a US source of French Enamel Varnish (FEV) - Fire Red... Found multiple sources in the UK, but FEV is restricted for shipping to the US.

Yes, there are multiple posts on the group discussing FEV and alternatives used with varying degrees of success. If possible, I'd like to use FEV rather than an alternative, but just not finding a source in the US.

Anyone know of a US based supplier with a web presence?

Many thanks!
Bob

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