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WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA

By H.E Goodluck Jonathan

Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.

I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regards to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.

When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasised.

Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.

Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.

1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualised. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?

2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.

3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:

If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognised. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

5. What and what have Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans. Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nails for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.

7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will money be generated from to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution and infrastructural development will be raised.

9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

10. Last, but not the least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum which will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Landgrabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?

Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss like intellectuals.

H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*


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WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA

By H.E Goodluck Jonathan

Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.

I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regard to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.

When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasized.


Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.

Please let’s set a good precedence from hereon.

1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualized. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba, and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?


2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.

3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:

If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra neither have anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annex others?

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognized. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

5. What and what have the Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters, and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by the Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans?

Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nail for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader, and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.


7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will the money be generated to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri, and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution, and infrastructural development will be raised.


9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

10. Last, but not least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum that will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Land grabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?


Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical, and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss them like intellectuals.

H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*


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Prof Adeboye

Good morning sir .

Below statement allegedly credited to former president Goodluck Jonathan is a matter of commonsense which, to many, isn’t as common .

Minority ethnic groups - whether from the Niger Delta, Southwest and the north - would do far better to be under the present 3 majority groups than under a single majority .
If the minorities were under a single majority group the following ( civilian and military leaders ) wouldn’t have emerged as national figures :

1 . Prime Minister Tafawa Balewa

2 . Yakubu Gowon

3 . Ibrahim Babangida

4 . Sani Abacha

5 . Abdulsalami Abubakar

6 . Goodluck Jonathan.

Since independence 63 years ago, the number of years that the aforementioned leaders from minority ethnic groups have ruled Nigeria is more than the number of years that the majorities have ruled .

Other than General Buhari ( who the military coup brought in 39 years ago in exchange for a fellow Fulani, Shehu Shagari ) one can easily say that the past coup planners preferred to be led by the military leaders outside the majority groups.
The state of origin of the father of Murtala Mohammed is being disputed by some people .






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Former president Goodluck Jonathan has on many occasions angrily denied ever authoring such idiotioc childish gibberish drivel, Jonathan and his kinsmen are no fools not to know that this is the handwork of the same very antagonistic haters that ganged up to deny him his second term in office.

And the earlier Igbos and indeed the entire old Eastern region realize that the north is actually not our problem but the Yorubas the better for all of us, they have once again deceived the South South, South East, and even the Middlebelt with POWER MUST SHIFT TO THE SOUTH nonsense and we foolishly threw the dirty water with the baby, they are now mocking and insulting our collective sensibilities, Nigeria belongs to all of us, it is either we wisely join hands to develop it for future generations or we foolishly join hands to destroy it to the everlasting shame of the black race, but make no mistake about this, no ethnic group in Nigeria or indeed the entire African continent is capable of subduing 50 million strong Igbos, go and bank it.

Arrant nonsense
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 Arrant nonsense idiotic man-child,
Joe Jideofor”


What you call yourself really suits you!
I wonder how SE got tricked by Yoruba.
Did your foolish SE vote for Tinubu?
You Igbos just write nonsense and think less of consequences.
You can’t claim anyone deceived you to vote for Obi, or was there a majority Igbos voting for Tinubu that I don’t know of, somewhere?

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Dumb Arrant Nonsense Called Joseph Jideofor:

Democracy is about the choice of the people, you dummy. It's not about you or what you think. Nigerian people overwhelming rejected your dumb and incompetent uncle called Jonathan Badluck and your idiotic brother called Peter Obidiot at the poll, due to their corruption, thievery and incompetence.

You're a shame and an utter disgrace to humanity.

Kayode

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Dumb Arrant Nonsense Called Joseph Jideofor:

Jonathan Badluck was a kleptomaniac. He and your sister called Ngozi Iweala emptied the Nigerian treasury in just 4 years, which led Nigeria into recession that Buhari eventually fixed. Your dumb and incompetent brother called Peter Obidiot emptied the Anambra treasury in eight years and was impeached twice for gross incompetence and corruption, making him the first governor in Nigeria to be impeached twice. He stole Anambra dry. That's why both of them were rejected at the poll.

Go figure!

Kayode

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Dumb Arrant Nonsense Called Joseph Jideofor:

Democracy is about the choice of the people, you dummy. It's not about you or what you think. Nigerian people overwhelmingly rejected your dumb and incompetent uncle called Jonathan Badluck and your idiotic brother called Peter Obidiot at the poll, due to their corruption, thievery and incompetence.

You're a shame and an utter disgrace to humanity.

Kayode


On Sat, May 27, 2023 at 9:51 AM, JOSEPH CHUKS

TAJUDEEN RAJI

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Lol!! Another gra gra one don come big up him chest to the world. Yes o, himself and him type are the best thing that ever happened to the world o. Awon Asinwin. lol! 

Quote of a Asinwin: “no ethnic group in Nigeria or indeed the entire African continent is capable of subduing 50 million strong Igbos, go and bank it.” Joe Jideofor 

Unquote

Instead make the Asinwin Managing Director face him hustle for Botswana, him dey listen to and follow a hustler by the name of Nnamdi Kanu wey dey make him people life bad for him selfish goal. Oh, I forgot - him na Asinwin, him no fit think correct. Lol!!

Thanks,
Tajudeen Raji 

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“ Arrant nonsense idiotic man-child,

Afis

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I really can’t pinpoint what type of Asinwin are Igbos. You went to war during the ‘60s, you lost, you turned round to blame Yoruba.
You voted for Peter Obi, you now claimed Yoruba people “tricked” Igbos into South-Lokan crap.
Did we blame Igbos when Ekwueme was VP?
Did Tinubu ever state that it is the turn of the South?
Of course not!
In his speech at an Ogun powwow dinner, Tinubu made it clear it was Yoruba’s turn, angain I repeat Tinubu said it was Yoruba’s turn……and the most qualified is him ie. Emilokan. 
All his focus was about his APC party’s choice of presidential candidate.
Why blame Yoruba for Igbos stupidity?

Awon people yi won gbadun, dem no well at all.

Afis
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Lol!! Another gra gra one don come big up him chest to the world. Yes o, himself and him type are the best thing that ever happened to the world o. Awon Asinwin. lol! 

JEROME NIANG YAKUBU

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YIBO OMO AJEKU'TA MA MU'MI
CAN you ANSWER the EIGHT questions ASKED herein?
They are RED and highlighted below.




WHY NIGER DELTANS DO NOT WANT TO BE PART OF BIAFRA

By H.E Goodluck Jonathan

Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas US on why remaining indivisible with Nigeria than joining forces with Biafrans in splitting the country will pay Niger Deltans more.

I begin this write-up by saying that I mean no ill-thought towards the Biafran struggle or Igbos in general. What I’ve written here are mainly my personal reflections concerning the Niger Delta, especially with regard to non-Igbo groups and their stake in the Biafran movement which has been rebirthed for some time now. I am not a mouthpiece for the Niger Delta but I believe I’ve been in the Niger Delta long enough to know our problems and our stand. I’ve also interacted with many Niger Deltans to know their stand in the Biafran struggle.

When I use the term Niger Delta, I am referring to the region covering Delta, Edo, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom, and Cross River states. However, I understand that the region also covers Ondo, Imo, and Abia states. I’m not concerned with the latter because they are either Igbos or Yorubas and have their own struggles. The ethnic groups within my coverage include Urhobo-Isoko, Bini, Esan, Itsekiri, Ijaw-Epie-Ogbia, Ogoni, Afemai, Efik-Annang-Eket-Oron-Ibibio, Ogoja, Ejagham, and other groups in Cross River North. Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included. Historically, Biafra covered all the Niger Delta states EXCEPT Delta and Ondo states. This fact must be emphasized.


Pro-Biafrans are welcome to debate and address my issues in a civil manner. I understand that most pro-Biafrans resort to insults when salient issues are addressed.

Please let’s set good precedence from hereon.

1. Biafra may not be better for Niger Deltans because Niger Deltans may end up living one form of subjugation for another. The argument Igbos have made for their freedom is the desire to be free from Hausa-Yoruba domination. That argument also applies to the average Niger Deltan. Igbo, no doubt, will be the major ethnic group if Biafra is actualized. Ijaws may have a stake due to their numbers. What about the Ogonis, Urhobo-Isokos, Itsekiris, Efiks, etc? Where will they fit in at the national level? The sad reality is that another Nigeria will just be made manifest and resentments will build up. What will really be the fate of minorities? Will they fare better in Biafra or alone? In Nigeria, big groups such as Hausa, Yoruba, and Igbo checkmate each other’s excesses very well. Who will checkmate that of Igbos in the new nation?


2. Where will the capital be located? If we are to follow the notion of central location, the capital of Biafra won’t be Enugu but around Umuahia-Ikot Ekpene axis. Will Igbos allow their capital to be sited in a non-Igbo location? This is a very salient issue because you don’t expect the riverine Niger Deltan in Twon-Brass, for instance, to journey all the way to Enugu to see their President. It has to be a location where ALL BIAFRANS can access easily. Enugu won’t go.




3. The issue of annexation comes to play. For so long, e-Biafrans have annexed Niger Delta as part of the proposed nation. The map below shows us what Biafrans have drawn to constitute the new nation:
Biafra Map.JPG

If we judge from this map, it means all groups in the Niger Delta have been annexed. My question is whether the leaders of these groups have been consulted before the annexation was done. I, for one, know that Urhobo-Isoko and Efik-Ibibio leaders have not approved of Biafra, and neither has anybody in these regions declared Biafra. So how and why were they included in the proposed map? Little things like this bring distrust and I understand that many of these non-Igbo regions have disowned the map and pledged allegiance to Nigeria. The declaration by the Delta State government is a case in point. I see this as forceful annexation. The so-called e-Biafrans have also not done much in calming the nerves of the people of the annexed regions. I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annex others?

4. What languages will be made the official languages of the new nation? I have seen several posts by e-Biafrans where Igbo was proposed as the official language of the new republic. What then will happen to other languages such as Urhobo, Isoko, Okpe, Efik, Ibibio, Oron, Ogoni, Eleme, Okrika, Kalabari, Bini, Esan, etc? Will they die off because of Igbo? Certainly NOT! If English is made the official language, the Igbo majority factor will kick in. If your name isn’t Chukwuemeka or Oliseh, Amarachi or Nneka, etc, you won’t get any appointment nor shall you be recognized. These are things we can’t deny. We are very ethnocentric in Africa.

5. What and what have the Igbo nation done for Niger Deltans to gain their trust? Every day I see Igbo youths making enemies where there were none. They constantly use the agency of the internet to sprout controversy, hurl insults at dissenters, and make unfounded claims. There is this general air of mistrust for Igbos by some Niger Deltans, particularly by the Urhobo-Isoko and Bini people. What have Igbos done to checkmate this? Has any Igbo leader or group extended the hand of friendship to the Niger Deltans?

Mistrust cannot be wished away. Most Niger Deltans would rather follow Hausas as slaves than follow Igbos as kings. This is the real reality and truthfully, Igbos caused this.

6. Who will lead the new nation? Obviously, Nnamdi Kanu, their hero, has fought tooth and nail for Biafra and he is currently cooling off in jail. If Biafra comes today, who will be the interim leader, and what modalities are in place for subsequent leaders to be elected? Igbos have been the only ones fighting for Biafra since time immemorial with a handful of other groups here and there. Will Igbos allow other groups to rule over them? Will they allow an Urhobo man to be President, for instance? This is not a case of mere wishing. We have to understand that Niger Delta groups MAY NEVER BE ALLOWED TO RULE BIAFRA IF IT IS ACTUALISED.


7. Still on the issue of leaders, are the new leaders going to fall from the skies or they are simply going to change addresses from Abuja to Enugu. If so, what will change in the new nation? It is not arguable that Igbo national leaders are the most corrupt persons in Nigeria. If these same people are the ones to rule the new nation then there is no hope because corruption will be so rife that the economy of the new nation will shut down like a knocked engine. If we argue that new and younger leaders will arise, we still have the issue of who fought for Biafra to contend with. Most pro-Biafrans will not allow someone who sat at the periphery of the struggle to just come and waltz power away from the “heroes” of Biafra. If this is true then we will not have a proper democracy in Biafra.

8. Will Biafra be a utopia? The impression that e-Biafrans give is that Biafra will be perfect and we all know for a fact that this is not true. Apart from the issue of corruption and sentimentalism that have been addressed, we still have the issue of development. Where will the money be generated to develop the nation? In the whole of the proposed Biafra, only Port Harcourt and Onitsha are economically viable cities. Where will the investors come from? Why should they invest in a volatile country? Only in Warri, we have Ijaw, Itsekiri, and Urhobo at loggerheads, imagine what would happen to the whole nation. Secondly, I am sure that no Niger Deltan will allow his “oil” to be used to develop Enugu like what happened with Abuja, and is still happening today. Niger Deltans are getting wiser and by the time the new nation is formed, matters that border on oil, wealth distribution, and infrastructural development will be raised.


9. The current structure of the proposed nation, as shown in the map earlier embedded, favour Igbos with more states. Urhobo has one, Efik-Ibibio has two, Itsekiri has none, etc. How will this be addressed? Certainly, every ethnic nationality will want adequate representation and so the structure on that map will never work.

10. Last, but not least, is the issue of referendum. Some Biafrans are already calling for a referendum that will involve all parts of the proposed nation. I am pretty sure how this referendum will turn out. However, for the sake of being hypothetical, let us imagine that some ethnic groups/states vote against Biafra by the majority, what will be their fate at the end of the day? Secondly, will the result of such a referendum be true and honest? I understand that electoral malpractice forms a part of our identity. How are we going to get a true reflection of people’s thoughts? Thirdly, if states and ethnic groups do decide to vote for Biafra, what mechanisms are in place to contain Igbophobia, Igbomania, Igbocentrism, Igbo hegemony, Land grabbing, and all issues that minorities have raised?


Above are the reasons why I feel that Niger Deltans will NOT subscribe to the Biafran movement. I have been very practical, philosophical, and hypothetical in my approach. I do not speak for any group or persons but I present these issues for the pro-Biafrans to address. Niger Deltans can raise more issues that I have not raised. Finally, it should be noted that I expect insults directed at my person by e-warriors and keyboard mercenaries, as usual, but I won’t pleasure such persons with answers or altercations. If you raise good points, we can discuss them like intellectuals.

H.E. Goodluck Jonathan. *(Copied)*

Afis

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“ …….Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included.”……GEJ.


So Ikwerre is Igboid?
That’s new to me!
🤣🤣🤣
Afis
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Prof Adeboye

afis 'Deinde

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Read this idiot that drank Ogogoro one day and declared “Lagos is no man’s land “……..Now he knows that annexation brings war:

“ I’ve seen comments such as “if you don’t like it, go and stay in Sokoto”, “all land in the South is Biafraland”, etc. Is it not ironic that a group of people who want freedom want to annexe others?”……GEJ.

What kind of idiots are these SESS people?

Afis
“Just as a solid rock is not shaken by the storm, even so the wise are not affected by praise or blame.” — Dhamapada, verse 81.

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Shikena,
Afis
“Hell is empty and all the Devils are here”, by Shakespeare in The Tempest.
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“ …….Ikwerre, Ukwuani, Ika, Aniocha, Ogba, and other Igboid groups, are not included.”……GEJ.

Ola Kassim

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Dear All:

The only intelligent new word I gained in the essay
purportedly written by former President Goodluck Jonathan is this one: 

e-Biafrans.

The rest of the verbiage  is garbage that no former President of Nigeria especially GEJ, who benefited tremendously from the unflinching support of the Igbo who accepted and adored him as one of their own during  his tenure could have written.

The essay is full of worn out and outdated ideas that easily betray either in part or in whole, the blatant forgery at play here:

a) would GEJ a man who adored his hometown, Otueke and who once served as Deputy Governor and later Governor of Bayelsa state,  VP and President of Nigeria have written so dispassionately about the Niger Delta and exhibited so much ignorance about the geography of the Niger Delta
and the sentiments of her peoples abiut ethno-geographical relationships in Nigeria?

b) would a man who as President of Nigeria located one of the 9 universities created during his term in his birth place, Otueke which was then no more than a hamlet or a small village have authored a piece that seems to create doubts about his commitment to his people and other ethnic groups in the Niger Delta?

 
c) why would GEJ, a non- Igbo who appointed highly  qualified and top notch Igbo from within Nigeria and from abroad to the most senior cabinet positions
in his government suddenly start writing so much rubbish about the Igbo and fear of ethnic domination by the Igbo if Biafra ever materializes?

My own opinion is that the writer of this junk piece is a prototype- e-Biafran  who lives and works outside of Nigeria. He is most likely one of the Diaspora e-Biafrans who suddenly temporarily shifted their allegiance to Nigeria as a united country once Peter Obi, a fellow Igbo emerged as one of the top candidates in the 2023 Presidential elections. 

This fake writer is trying to sow a discord between Niger Deltans and the Igbo. I doubt if he would succeeds in this mission!

Bye,

Ola

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Lol!! Another gra gra one don come big up him chest to the world. Yes o, himself and him type are the best thing that ever happened to the world o. Awon Asinwin. lol! 

JEROME NIANG YAKUBU

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Brother Imperial,

You are absolutely right.

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> Prof Adeboye

femi Olajide

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Joseph Chuks,

I did not make any sense from your posting and did not see any correlation to the posting of Prof Adeboye.

All I can feel is your misplaced hatred for the Yorubas. The Yorubas that had hosted millions of Igbos for donkey of years in Youbaland whilst running away from their ravished Igboland.

It is usually said that Igbos are ingrates, now I know why! Loyalty and dedication cannot be forced on anyone, especially in the Igbo way. Igbos should interact, build bridges and stop burning bridges down. If Igbos do not see sense and behave in a civilized way and show some decorum, they will not see presidency in the Nigerian nation for the next 200 years.

Ignore just keep doing the same thing in the same way, and keep expecting a different result...what a foolish set of people.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebukadineze Adiele

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Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.

The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.

I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:


Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitation
By Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020


Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.

The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.

However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.

Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.

He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.

“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.

“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.

“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.

“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….

“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.

“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.

“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?

“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”


To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.  

Nebukadineze Adiele
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  I don't have the pleasure of time dignifying the rantings of a redundant, I have no business hating any tribe in Nigeria like the primitive and camelionic Fani Kayode, Bayo Onanuga, and host of others that have belonged to this 21st century, I have made my salient points, so continue with your century old stock-in-trade of hate induced malicious  incitement of other ethnic groups in Nigeria against the Igbos, but just know that you will not succeed to "subdue" the 50 million strong Igbos in the next 1 million years.
Firstly,let me educate you a little bit about the old Eastern region, the people and the demographics, Igbo speaking people constitute over 57% of the entire population of what is known today as Niger deltans while the rest of the population of different ethnic groups are in one way or the other connected to Igbo ancestry through hundreds of years of inter-marriages, this is a verifiable fact which no camelionic hater or haters of anything Igbo can change.
Lagos was the capital of Nigeria since the amalgamation in 1914,Igbos just like the mainland Yoruba and other ethnic groups were attracted to Lagos because of her status as the political capital of Nigeria, the regional capital of the old Eastern region was Ibadan and not Lagos, Sir Louis Odumegwu Ojukwu for an example moved to Lagos and not "Ibadan" in 1929 where he built his business empire, the first early settlers of Lagos are the returned slaves of kreole speaking people of Sierra Leone and Liberia such as the Herbert Marcauley, Ajayi Crowthers, the Williams, and many other prominent families that constitute the majority of the people that are known today as Lagosians.
And apart from Lagos still remains the most chaotic, dirty, and inhabitable city in the world today, there are very few and insignificant number of Igbo people living in the rest of five Yoruba states in the south West, and I make bold to aver here that there is absolutely nothing to write home about the rest of the five states in terms of economic activities to attract any serious Igbo businessman or woman, so I don't know who hosted in your dreams for 200 years.
Sheik Gumi and the former Emir of Kano Sanusi prophesied late last year and early this year respectively that Igbos would realize that the north is their problem after this year's election and their prophesies have come to pass, the entire world watched in utter bewilderment how some cowardly miscreants and thugs were deployed to intimidate and threaten the Igbos and other non- Yoruba Nigerians resident in Lagos to vote for their chosen candidates or leave Lagos,people were in a broad day light bludgeoned to death in most barbaric and despicable manner, markets that belonged to Igbo businesses maliciously burnt down and the innocent owners of the shops and their families livelihood systematically destroyed  by the cowardly MC Oluomo led thugs for no other crime of theirs but just trying to exercise their civic franchise as Nigeria citizens and some American stranded idiots are here talking rubbish.
I have said it in many times without number that I am an avid believer of one indivisible Nigeria where justice, fairness, and equity reign supreme, but what we witnessed in Lagos in this year's election is a dangerous warning sign that we are heading to a very self-destructive  apocalyptic future in Nigeria with unimaginable dire consequences  unless we sit down and honestly  discuss how to live in diversity in a complex country like Nigeria.
And lastly, Obasanjo as a Yoruba man has ruled Nigeria twice courtesy of his cunning and treacherous romance with then Northern military generals, good man Shehu Shagari, gentleman Umaru Yaradua, and Buhari all Fulanis have also ruled Nigeria in the past amongst others in the past, are the Yorubas or the Fulanis better than Igbos in Nigeria because one of their people sat in Aso rock as president?,is a loaf of bread cheaper in Kastina or Ogun state than in Anambra state?,so what is so special in producing a president in a hell?,you are just an idiotic clown grandstanding here just to be noticed.
Joe Jideofor 

JOSEPH CHUKS

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that should "have" belonged to the 21st century 

JOSEPH CHUKS

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the regional capital of old Western* Nigeria 

femi Olajide

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Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

,
Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

,
Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

,
Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

Are you Ok at all?

Did you read me attest to the veracity of the speech by GEJ or the mere mention of Igbos has got your blood boiling again.

Listen and listen good. I don't care a hoot about who authored what. What really matters are the facts and intelligent points raised therein. I even care less who and who hates Igbos in the proposed south east and proposed Biafra land.

The points in the alleged GEJ speech sound childish to you, but most salient and true facts are never overly complicated. They are usually just straightforward and simple.

Instead of arguing about the author/s, argue about the facts or lies therein.
Specifically deal with the points without your usual ambiguity and tangential arguments.

Regards,

Femi Olajide
On Sunday, 28 May 2023, 07:53:05 GMT+1, Nebukadineze Adiele <nebuka...@aol.com> wrote:


Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.

The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.

I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:


Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitation
By Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020


Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.

The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.

However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.

Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.

He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.

“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.

“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.

“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.

“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….

“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.

“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.

“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?

“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”


To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.  

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Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.

The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.

I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:


Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitation
By Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020


Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.

The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.

However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.

Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.

He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.

“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.

“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.

“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.

“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….

“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.

“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.

“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?

“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”


To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.  

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Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.

The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.

I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:


Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitation
By Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020


Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.

The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.

However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.

Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.

He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.

“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.

“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.

“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.

“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….

“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.

“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.

“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?

“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”


To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.  

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Organized religion sired irrationality.


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Femi Olayide,
Sometimes you emit a degree of thoughtlessness and dishonesty that make me believe that you are, indeed, a pirate in Dockland, as your nemesis announced of you to us. You have to have some innate trait of criminality to be coming openly parroting idiocy, arrant falsehood, Igbophobia, and childishness. I often categorized you as one of the educated folks on these forums but your behavior throughout Tinubu's match to the presidency of Nigeria makes me think that I either categorized you wrongly or you are capable of jettisoning your education in support of primordialism as is wont of Adeniran Adeboye.

The trash posted here by Adeniran Adebye has no date, has no link, has no specific institution where the "lecture" was delivered, yet a professor of Mathematics had no qualms posting it, thereby putting a question mark on his intellectual integrity? You, Femi Olajide, not only believed the rash but you are also insulting someone who informed the audience that Jonathan has severally denied making this speech? What makes you seeming a criminal is that you are abusing the person who alerted you to the fakery as well as the entire Igbo people. You must be a worthless, thoughtless, and shameless Ishan pirate in Dockland to be this brazen.

I read the so called speech (through a third party, I no longer read Adeniran Adeboye) and I knew right away that it was too childish a lecture for a former president of Nigeria to have delivered, so I ignored it. Not only are most of the contents of the "lecture" falsehoods, the entire piece is so divisive that no one who has led Nigeria would utter it in Nigeria or in far away US to blemish Nigerians -- assuming Jonathan feels as is c0nveyed in the "lecture", he would not utter it in light of his having once presided over Nigeria. As I read this fellow state that Jonatan has severally denied the speech, I googled it, and within seconds, google proved the fellow right, this nonsense given prominence by a supposedly intellectual was a trashed that is over three years old and and has long been denied by Jonathan as follows:


Jonathan disowns purported speech on Niger Delta, Biafra agitation
By Unini Chioma -May 17, 2020


Former Nigerian President, Goodluck Ebele Jonathan has disowned an online statement credited to him concerning the relationship between the South East and the people of the Niger Delta, describing it as a fabricated speech.

The report claimed that the former President spoke on the position of Niger Delta over agitations for Biafra in a speech he presented recently in Texas, United States.

However, a statement signed by his Media Adviser, Mr. Ikechukwu Eze, on Saturday described the report as false, declaring that the former President could not have presented the purported speech because neither did he travel to the United States nor send anybody to represent him at the unnamed event.

Eze who noted that it was the second time in three years that the former President would be issuing a disclaimer on the purported speech, blamed the development on the effort of some unscrupulous criminals out to tarnish the image of Dr. Jonathan.

He wrote: “Our attention has been drawn to a fake story with the title ‘Why Niger Deltans don’t want to be part of Biafra’ currently circulating online and purported to have been taken from a speech allegedly presented by former President Dr. Goodluck Jonathan at an unnamed event in Texas, United States.

“The story which is being recycled in some online platforms claimed that the former President allegedly spoke on the relationship between the people of the Niger Delta and South East states while addressing the broader issue of agitation for Biafra.

“We thought we had finally dealt with the issue of this falsehood with our timely and well publicised disclaimer, soon after the supposed speech first surfaced online in 2017. However, it beggars belief that the same jejune and disastrous effort at speech writing, hatched by some yet-to-be-identified shady character, is again being served to the social media public as a fresh dish.

“We want to clearly state, as we did in 2017, that there was no such event involving the former President and that Dr. Goodluck Jonathan will never present such a sloppy and hate-filled speech.

“We note that the false report is the same old statement that was first put out about three years ago by some unscrupulous elements. Now and as then, it began this way: “Former President of Nigeria, Goodluck Ebere Jonathan yesterday delivered a lecture at Texas, United States….

“We recall that when the purported speech was first published in 2017, we dismissed it as pure fiction because, unknown to the authors, they made the claim at a time when the former President had neither been to Texas since leaving office in 2015, nor been invited to any speaking engagement in the US State. Our disclaimer which was issued on October 13, 2017 was published then in many newspapers.

“That this odious concoction has not only resurfaced as a new document but continues to spread in May 2020 shows to what a sad extent the fake news and bizarre hoaxes industry is gaining ground in our public space.

“It makes it even more distressing that such a poorly conceived dithyramb and the obvious falsehood around it, could receive any attention from discerning Nigerians. For instance, this is a speech that was purportedly presented in Texas, United States, but nothing was said about the actual date, venue, organisers and purpose of the event. Does it also make any sense that the former President would be assumed to have travelled to the United States to present a speech, at a time when airports are shut and public gathering banned across the world on account of Covid-19 pandemic?

“We can only reiterate as we did in 2017 that this falsehood serves no purpose other than probably massage the ego of the faceless writer. At a time like this, Nigerians have more important things competing for their attention than waste their data on the hackwork of a fraudulent wannabe speech writer who thinks nothing of the criminal implication of attributing his duplicitous diatribe against a people to former President Dr. Goodluck Ebele Jonathan.”


To cleanse your ignorance, Femi, know it today that Jonathan and his people are not anti Igbo, they are from Ogbia and describe themselves as such, they don't describe themselves as Ijọ, even though they belong to the general Ijọ tribe. Jonathan enjoyed Igbo support towards and throughout his presidency, his wife's mother was Igbo, so he harbors no ill-will or ill-feelings towards Igbo to be making such a childish and activistic speech. It is an insult to the presidency of Nigeria that Adeniran Adeboye would believe that a former occupier of that position could make this silly speech, which is even beneath the minute brain of the Ijọ fat toad and street thug, Asari Dokubo. I must caution you against your inchoate relishing in abusing the entire Igbo people. If you have issues with an Igbo, deal with that person and not the entire Igbo. If you keep abusing Igbo as you flippantly do, you would be treated in kind.  

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Femi Olajide of Dockland,
You repeated your message at least 10 times, that shows that yo were either drinking or rattled by mischievousness. It is a trait of criminality to assert that facts exist n a fraud; you can add a hundred zero, they will always equal a zero. If you going to reason this stupidly and childishly, I consign you to my spam folder, I have no time for childishness of this sort. 

I thought you were a graceful person who would have recognized his error and expatiated, not an unconscionable urchin who would brazenly turn logic upside down by asking me to look at the facts in a fraud. That is the most illogical thing I have read on these forums in years; no properly educated, reasonable, or honest person would comment on a fraudulent hate speech or see any fact in it. Frankly, I am becoming more convinced that there are multiple people using the Olajide email address -- one person is smart, honest, and polite, while the other/others is/are the opposite. 

Nebukadineze Adiele
Organized religion sired irrationality.

femi Olajide

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Nebu,

🤷.
Ok. I'm out!


Regards,

Femi Olajide

,
Nebu,

🤷.
Ok. I'm out!

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Nebu,

🤷.
Ok. I'm out!

Regards,

Femi Olajide

Wharf A. Snake

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Nebu,

Miscreants will act like miscreants and that is enough reason for my skipping that piece. I believe Ogbeni Dipo posted it here some years back to buttress his anti-Igbo agenda and even then, many people pointed out that it was false. 

Adeniran Adeboye continues to discount all reservations for his intellectual sagacity and therefore one has no qualms but ignoring him. 

Ejo ni Mushin - Prince 

Agwọ nọ n’akịrịka

monamona ni ologun ngbe, ologun to ba gbe paramole o gbe iyonu.

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femi Olajide

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WS,

Ask any non-Igbo individual in Nigeria, they'll rather be a miscreant of their ethnic group than an elite of Igbo extraction anyday.

That says a lot about how non-Igbos in Nigeria see Igbos. 🤣😂😅😜

Regards,

Femi Olajide

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