Manual sort order sync

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Roberto Penzo

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Nov 28, 2015, 1:49:08 PM11/28/15
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On desktop version I heavily use the manual sort order. I am sad... The sort order of the desktop is not synced on the mobile...

Dwight Arthur

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Nov 28, 2015, 2:12:35 PM11/28/15
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Hi, Roberto.
The manual sort order *is* synched, but only for the STARRED view.
-Dwight
MLO Betazoid on Android SGN4

Roberto Penzo

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Nov 28, 2015, 2:43:48 PM11/28/15
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Yes, understood, unfortunately the STARRED view is THE ONLY that synchronizes the manual order, and it is not editable, no Advanced filters..., no Sort options...
I will see.

Dwight Arthur

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Nov 28, 2015, 3:36:49 PM11/28/15
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Hi, Roberto.
I agree that it would be nice to be able to apply advanced filters to the  STARRED view. But I would think that manual sort is a contradiction of dort optoons. Did you have something in particular in mind?
-Dwight
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Dwight Arthur

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Nov 28, 2015, 4:11:35 PM11/28/15
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*contradiction of sort options

-Dwight
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Roberto Penzo

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Nov 28, 2015, 4:46:29 PM11/28/15
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What you see on automatic/manual sort is logical and at first times it was also my thought. So I started using only automatic order to get the sequence of the tasks for my personal / working activities.

But week by week I understood that the activities need to be considered also with *human* principles. So I finally came to consider the priorities and automatic planning as a good suggestion to schedule my day-by-day list.

This list is a subset of the automatic sortinging, composed taking tasks from 2-3 lists (long range, middle range and daily maintenance tasks), manually ordered to meet some simple principles; example: first the activities outside my home, then the activities at home. Or other equally simple.

So the manual sort is very nice, very useful. It is for me a sort of "what I really have decided to do today". The effort to decide what tasks and in which order is very useful for my mind and for my committment.

Dwight Arthur

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Nov 28, 2015, 11:45:25 PM11/28/15
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Hi, Roberto.
I totally understand and agree with what you are saying about the need
to combine automatic ordering of tasks with some human decisions about
what is going to be done first.

Here is how I deal with it. This may not be a good answer for you, but
it works for me and it might be interesting for you to think about.

I assign "importance" values consistent with the order in which I want
things to happen. Most people only use importance values from
100(default) to 200. I use them all. For example I have a checklist of
things that I want to get done in the first hour of every day before I
move on to the day's projects. They are numbered between 170 to 190.
Urgent things and emergencies go in 191-199. 200 is for something that
absolutely has to be next. Do you get the idea? Then, if I have
something I have decided to work on today I turn on the star. So I might
have several unstarted projects around #90 priority but one of them,
that I want to start today, will be starred. So when I get to #90 in my
list, the starred one stands out.

My "Daily" view is sorter first by importance, then by starred, and then
by date modified. That last part creates FIFO (first in/first out)
queues. For example, interesting things to read are at priority 40.
There are a lot of them. By sorting on modified date I know that the one
that has been waiting the longest is at the top. When I get to priority
40 if I dont feel like reading that particular item I have two choices.
I could mark it complete, meaning I'm never going to read this, or I
could modify it (for example, add a blank character to the Note).
Modifying it gives it the newest modification date which drops it to the
bottom of my reading queue. By the time it works its way back to the top
maybe I will be ready to read it.

If I see something in the wrong place in my view it's easy to fix.
Suppose that there's a task near the end of the daily routing that I
really want to do sooner. I can just click on the Importance slider and
hit the right arrow key on my keyboard. Each tap adds one to the
importance and the task slowly climbs through the task list until it
reaches the right place.

Importance, star, and modified date are all synched between MLO/Windows
and MLO/Android so if I move a task up in the list by increasing
importance, it moves up on both Windows and Android.
hth
-Dwight
MLO Betazoid on Windows, Cloud and Android SGN2

Roberto Penzo

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Dec 1, 2015, 4:20:38 AM12/1/15
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Thanks Arthur.
I read the first half of your answer and it seems very interesting, but I have to... find the time to read and concentrate to it to figure how this could sound on my life (organized...).
I will answer you whenever my head will run on it.

It seems that I have a little problem that you do not have: I use a single database for both work and home activities, so I should star in turn two groups of tasks one a day.

In the meanwhile thank you very much.

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