Can't update my windows version to 4.3.2

[luc]

Hi!

anybody knows why I can't update to version 4.3.2?

Says I am updated, but when I check in ''About'', it shows that I am using version 4.3.1...

I also checked in the discussion forums, but didn't find an answer there.

Thanks in advance!

Luc

[Luc Poitras]

...Or I suppose maybe the time has come to buy the new version?

Just trying here to find the answer to this...

Thanks!

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[Stéph]

4.3.2 is a beta version, isn't it?  That's what I'm running.

 

I take it you're trying to download it from the beta site, not the main site?

 

Stéphane

[MrCricket]

Just download it, http://www.mylifeorganized.net/downloads/files/MLO-Setup.exe

[Christoph Zwerschke]

Hi all,

I'm always wondering about the best or "right" way to make use of the
"start date" field. What should it really mean?

Should it signify
(1) "I intend to start working on this task at that date"?

Or rather
(2) "This is the first possible date when it starts making sense to even
think about that task"?

With meaning (1) it's more like a "scheduled date", it marks tasks that
I really decided to work on. With meaning (2) it's still undecided if
and when I want to work on it. It's then just a filter for tasks which
are currently irrelevant.

Which kind of field usage would make more sense - for task managers in
general, and for MLO in particular? How do you use the field?

-- Chris

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Chris. This is one of those situations where different answers suit different people, and no answer is "right". I would refer to your two alternatives as the "scheduled" date versus the "feasible" date. The flip side is how the due date is used: is it the date on which you are planning to finish, or is it the date after which the task is no longer feasible?

Feasible dates are more in line with GTD thinking. I want to spend more time getting things done and less time maintaining my queue of things to do. Feasible dates allow me to filter my to-do lists to exclude items that are not feasible right now. Then I can use other stuff like contexts, importance etc to narrow my list down to the things I need to do now. I can also set up a view to show tasks that are approaching their due date. The advantage is that the feasible dates do not often change so this approach requires minimal maintenance effort.

Some people need to schedule their work. If you are dealing with issues like "will I be able to make this deliverable by the promised date" or "have I overcommitted my resources for a particulat period of time" then you need schedule dates. Once you have schedule dates, you can try to show your work on a calendar, assign level of effort for particular tasks, and total up effort for particular dates. This all tends to work best if your lowest level tasks are each small enough so that no task spans over two days. Sometimes this leads to tasks like "paint walls first day" and "paint walls second day". If it's important to you to manage promised deliverable dates and overcommitted resources then you may need to use scheduled dates. But you should recognize that choosing scheduled dates means you will spend that much more of your limited time updating and tweaking your plans.
-Dwight

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[Christoph Zwerschke]

Hi Dwight, thanks for answering.

You're right, the terms "scheduled" and "feasible" describe the
difference in usage I have in mind, and yes, it also applies to the due
date, not only to the start date.

I also agree that the "feasible" approach is more in line with GTD, and
the "scheduled" approach more for strict project management where people
like to draw Gantt charts etc.

My problem is that I want to somehow have the best of both worlds, and
catch myself using the start date with different meanings. In
consequence, it makes matters worse since the dates lose a definite
meaning and don't help anymore in sifting through my task list.

So it's very important to define for yourself what your task properties
exactly mean, *and always stick to that meaning* if you want to enter
your tasks properly and then create meaningful views on them. I'm just
trying to find out what that meaning should be for me.

Another problem is that while you can of course choose your own meaning
for some properties, the software also makes tacit assumptions about
what they *should* mean and supports that meaning in several ways. In
this respect there *is* often a "right" meaning, namely the meaning that
the software author had in mind. If you start using it in other ways,
you start fighting against the software and cannot fully exploit its
features.

For instance, when I want to give the start date the meaning "first
feasible date", then setting it to today or leaving it empty would mean
exactly the same: "it's already feasible and can be started today".
However, the view "start next 7 days" shows only the tasks where I enter
a start date of today. Also, the computed score treats tasks with start
date of today and without start date differently (same for due dates).
So that goes counter to the usage as feasible dates, and it's something
I'm always struggling with in MLO.

-- Chris

[Dwight Arthur]

Hi, Chris. At one time I felt that MLO should be enhanced to offer both schedule dates and feasible dates. However, discussions on this forum convinced me that the average user (and even worse, the average newbie out looking for a task manager) is quite unlikely to quickly grasp what this even means, or how to use it, or why, and it will become a bothersome complexity. At this point my favorite solution would be to offer user defined fields (UDF), that could be a text, a number, a date, a true/false value, or an item picked from a list of possible values. If this were available, I would use MLO's start and due dates as scheduled dates, and I would create UDF for feasible dates. I personally use feasible dates most of the time, the reason they would be UDF would be that any integration with calendar utilities would likely use the built-in dates and should probably use schedule dates.

I understand your point about fighting against the software. However on this issue I believe that the designers of MLO did not follow your advice to pick one meaning and stick with it. Yes, "start next 7 days" makes more sense with schedule dates, but "active by context" (one of my most-used views) makes more sense with feasible dates. But these are views, and I am free to ignore views like "start next 7 days" or tweak them to meet my needs (by making a view, for example, for tasks that are active now or will become active in the next seven days).

Computed score isn't really like that. I don't think that there's any way to make "start date does not exist" prioritize the same as "start date is past or today". That's one of several reasons why I don't use computed score.

-Dwight

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[Christoph Zwerschke]

Am 18.03.2015 um 16:36 schrieb Dwight Arthur:
> Computed score isn't really like that. I don't think that there's any
> way to make "start date does not exist" prioritize the same as "start
> date is past or today". That's one of several reasons why I don't use
> computed score.

That's a shame, because it was one of the features that drew me to MLO
originally. I would really like to see it working properly or to have it
more configurable.

-- Chris