Daily recurring task loses time on completion - lock period doesn't work?

[Pawel Bartuzi]

I defined daily recurring task with times set (start: 17:00, due: 23:00). Recurrence is defined as "daily, regenerate new task 1 day after each task is completed, use time, lock period".

I have two problems:

• I cannot set "Lock period" from "Task Recurrence" dialog - every time I set it the setting is forgotten after closing the dialog. Only from "Timing & Reminder" panel I can set "Lock Period" so it stays on.
• Regardless of "Lock period" setting value when I complete the task a new task is regenerated with times resulting from my current time, not the times set in task definition (i.e. I complete task at 8:55 - the new task's start is 02:55, due 08:55). I would expect that when "Lock period" is used the new task will be regenerated with 17:00-23:00 times.
  

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Pawel

[m...@grantsmiths.org]

Hi, Pawel.

I have the same results as you regarding Lock Period. I would agree with you that this is a bug, so you should report it to sup...@mylifeorganized.net

 

My understanding of “Lock period” is that it does not lock start and due but rather lead time. If you create a simple (nonrecurring) task that starts today at 17:00 and is due at 23:00 and then turn on the lock period, it does not prevent you from changing start time or due time but it does protect lead time. If you change start time to 15:00 due time will automatically change to 21:00. If you change due time to 22:00 start time will automatically change to 16:00. So, by asking for recurrence one day after task is completed with lock period on I think you are asking for a recurred task to be created with due time = 24 hours after Completion Date & Time of the prior task, with lead time locked at 6 hours, and the start time will compute itself. It looks like that is what you are getting, so I think it’s working.

 

If I wanted a task set for 17:00 through 23:00 of every day I would not choose “regenerate 1 day after completed” I would choose “Every 1 day”. The difference between these two is what happens if you miss a day. In both cases, after 2300 of the day when you missed it, the task will show as overdue. But when you do the task the following day (assuming you completed it at exactly 2300) the 1-day-after variant will regenerate for tomorrow where the every-day variant will regenerate for today, already overdue. I think what you want is a recurrence scheme where the date is determined by 1-day-after but the time is determined by every-day. Perhaps there’s a way to do that but I don’t know it.

 

I would recommend using every-day. If you miss a day, the next day you can click the completed box twice. If you miss 23 days instead of clicking completed 24 times you can right-click on the task, select “skip occurrence” and then select “skip all occurrences up to today” then click once more to say that it’s done for

today.

-Dwight

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[Pawel Bartuzi]

Hi Dwight,
I've sent an email to MLO support.

As to the Lock period vs. recurrence pattern - this is something not described in the help file so I don't know what was the intent of the developers. As for me, when I use "day" recurrence, I would expect that the start and due time will not be changed (even without Lock period) - if I wanted to regenerate task exactl number of hours after the task completion I would use hourly recurrence setting for such precision. I mean, "day" recurrence should work on a date level, leaving times alone (or there could be an additional option controlling that behavior).

I agree however that your solution is a pretty good workaround in my solution - I just have to skip the tasks and it is an additional step.

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[m...@grantsmiths.org]

On: Monday, May 27, 2013 11:30 AM, Pawel Bartuzi wrote: […]Lock period vs. recurrence pattern - this is something not described in the help file […]

 

Sadly, this is true. If there were any documentation of this, it should make clear that this lock has no effect whatsoever on the actual behavior of any task or of any recurrence process. The only thing it effects is the process by which you edit the start and due dates. Without the lock you can edit each one separately.

 

It would be easier to understand, in addition, if the label on this checkbox were changed from “lock period” to “lock lead time”

-Dwight

 

[Lisa Stroyan]

To reiterate what Dwight said, the "Lock Period" Is only an editing tool -- not a property of the task. 

I agree that "recur one day after this is completed" should ignore the hour at which the task is completed and keep its original time parameters.

The other thing that works differently between the two types of recurrence is "skip occurrences". It would be nice if this was standardized as well.

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[AbeG]

Looks like this is something that was intentionally left out in the past -

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/mylifeorganized/hourly$20recurrence/mylifeorganized/H-2WcVKRtlc/T5SyTyQGQ7QJ

It would be nice if the hourly recurrence were made to be more consistent with the other timeframe options.