Poss bug? Trying to create View with Starred tasks, grouped by Context, but w/o Context name rows.

[J Smith]

Hello

I have found a weirdness / possible bug.

I am trying to create a View that shows:
- All my Active tasks that I have given Stars and then
- to have them grouped by Context.

This is easily achieved by having an Advanced Filtering with (Starred) ticked and then going to the
"Group by" screen and setting "Group Items By" to "Context"

So far so good.

However  I am finding the rows with Context names in them to be too visually distracting. And although unticking "Show Items count in groups" removes the count on the Context rows, I cannot remove the Group names by unticking "Show Group Name".
Ideally I would like to get rid of the entire row with the Context name in it, (because I can already see the Context for each Task in the Context column that I have set up).

Furthermore, the tickbox under "Group Items By" that is called "This Group Expanded" does not appear to have any affect whatsoever as to whether or not the group actually is expanded (a bug surely!). Given the choice I would like the groups to be expanded by default although this is not crucial I guess.

A simpler solution might have been simply to have sorted by Context, however perhaps strangley "Filter" ==> "Group & Sort" ==> "Sort Tasks by" does not list the Context field as being an option.

Any suggestions?

J

[J Smith]

PS  OK, I have a partial solution which is to change the formatting of the Groups within Tree Format. This helps visually however I would still prefer not to have the Group By names (i.e. the rows containing Context names) visible as I regard them as both slightly distracting and a waste of vertical space.

[J Smith]

To summarize:

How can I create a view of (Active) Starred tasks that is either 

A) sorted by Context?

B) grouped by Context but have the Context rows hidden?

thanks

J

[Dwight]

Hi, John.

I don't have any solution for you.

I might be able to guess why context is missing from sort. If a task with more than one context is viewed with contexts grouped,  the task will appear in more than one place. I often have this situation; a task might have a context for where I want to address it, for the customer involved, and for the tool I need. It would be difficult and confusing to make a single task appear in multiple locations in a sort. There is also a consideration when a context includes another context, I can't work it out right now as I don’t have access to Windows.

The most likely implementation of context sort would be an alphabetical sort of the contents of the Context field,  which would mean that the task would essentially be sorted by the context listed first. In my example, if I looked for tasks for a certain customer I would miss this one as it would be sorted under its location. This seems the kind tool that could leave new users confused and frustrated, I would suggest not proceeding without a proposal to avoid this pitfall.

The suggestion to hide group headers has more promise.  You could make a view that's confusing but it would be easy to understand what went wrong and put the headers back if needed.

If no one else objects I would suggest bringing this to Jira.  As you have expressed concern about learning Jira, let me spell it out for you.
1. Using a large-screen device (tablet or PC) point your browser to
MyLifeOrganized.net/mloissues
2. Click on a bar at the top called something like "report mlo beta issue"
3. Fill out and submit the form.
That's all!
-Dwight
Mlo betazoid on Android sgn2

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[J Smith]

Hi Dwight

Most of my tasks are single context, but yes, I do see the problem of multiple contexts.

Hmm, tricky. I guess what I would want is for the view to be broken out into a list of "contains <whatever> context"... but you're going to tell me that this would be completely beyond the way MLO currently does things, right?

Thanks

J

[J Smith]

Hi Dwight

Sorry you know what - I need to do a 'pivot' on this!

I seen now precisely what you mean - the group by already is doing what I want it do to. And I also see that without having the Group heading in place that the context columns are become extremely. Part of the problem is that the will of course show all the Contexts that have been added - and do so in whatever order they were added in!

OK now that I've found a way to make the Group headings visually much less "shouting"  I think what we have will suffice. So please do not request the hiding of group headers - at least do not do so just for me!

J