ScarletDME (opensource qm gpl fork) 64 bit linux installer

[Donald Montaine]

This is a great way to have an unlimited user version of a multi-value database without any licensing costs or related limitations.  For more infomation about ScarletDME, see the ScarletDME google group.

I have tested the installer on Debian 12, Ubuntu 22.04 desktop and server, Fedora 38 and Manjaro Linux and it works fine.  So any recent Debian, Fedora, or Arch based distro should work for installing ScarletDME.

Install the development tools for your environment (build-essential on Debian, for example).

Unzip the provided zip and run installsdme.sh.

Logout and back in to make sure group membership is updated.

(On Arch based distros, you have to reboot).

The is also a deletesdme.sh script included that will totally de-install ScarletDME.  As with the installer, logout/in or reboot as appropriate for your distro to make sure that group permissions are updated. It does not delete the ScarletDME files in your personal directory, so that if you re-install, your personal VOC and other personal files are still there.

I am going to move this to git?? at some point.  This will be the last link that I post to pcloud.

https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZJJMcVZ8rBc0ckVQeVcbpxnUlLIUX8y5YpX

[Asraph ali]

Hi

I am new to this group.

Is ScarletDME available  for Windows OS ?

Please provide me  the link  to download with the documentation if available

Thanks and Best Regards

K.S.Asraph Ali

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[Daniel Hopkins]

Asraph Ali,

I believe it's only available for Linux, however, I can confirm that in Windows, using WSL, Ubuntu 22.04, it works perfectly.

Regards,

Dan Hopkins

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[Asraph ali]

Hi Dan Hopkins

Thanks  for  your quick response.

Let me try

Best Regards

asraph

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[Wols Lists]

On 08/11/2023 08:53, Asraph ali wrote:
> Hi
> I am new to this group.
>
> Is ScarletDME available  for Windows OS ?
>

Trying to build it for Windows is on my (far too long) to-do list.

Here's hoping work are impressed with it (the signs are hopeful) and
give me work time to play with it :-)

Cheers,
Wol

[IZZI ZMAN]

Great Effort and much appreciated ! Need some help though !

I remember seeing a thread about install options, etc... but can't seem to find it anywhere.

1) Can I have QM running at the same time (Ubuntu machine) ? If so, what needs to be done to keep them separate (complete filesystem, etc...) I notice the install references the /usr/qmsys directory and overlays everything. I know since I clobbered my install once already and had to restore !

Any Help with the notes or instructions appreciated.

Izzi

[Donald Montaine]

I would use a virtual machine.  QM GPL, which ScarletDME was forked from, has essentially the same base configuration as QM commercial.  There is a page on the Rocket web site about multi-tenanting.  However I don't think that option was available when QM GPL was created.  The link is:  https://docs.rocketsoftware.com/bundle/openqm_ref_4/page/wbj1652705941680.html

[Donald Montaine]

Documentation pdf's for the 2.6.6 version of qm are available here: https://www.rushflat.co.nz/downloads.php

[Niv]

You should presumably be installing scarletdme globally, under /usr/qmsys, and then creating accounts anywhere else.

I place accounts under /home so I have my regular QM stuff in /home/BLOG.

This way installing qm for a second time doesn't clobber things unless your making changes in the master QM account?

[izzizman]

Totally understood and thx for the info. I already have QM running /usr/qmsys so was hoping to install a new variant under say /usr/qmDME...or another filesystem on the server /media/data/qmDME.

Also have individual Accounts under my home and other sub-directories. I was Just to quick to pull the trigger and hit the Install the first time without reading !! (should know better after 30+ years in PICK ! )

Izzi

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[Donald Montaine]

I have decided to put this project on github.  I will be deactivating my personal server in a few days.

To access the files on github, go to: https://github.com/dmontaine/ScarletDME64_Installer

[Niv]

In this case then you can skip the installation step completely and simply use the new qm binary that is built with make. I have qm installed globally on my server but when I do development work, I launch the built qm binary directly aka ~/path/to/dev/bin/qm.

I guess the question is what are you trying to do?

In general I think the assumption should be that /usr/qmsys is not the place to make changes and leave that as the system account that will change anytime you install.

Perhaps this can be a warning in the installer script and it prompt you to say yes to overwriting /usr/qmsys.

[Brian Speirs]

I don't see why you can't have QM and Scarlet running on the same server. You will just need to insure that (a) they are installed to different locations (/usr/qmsys  and /usr/scarletdme  for example); and (b) that they listen to different ports - which you set up in the configuration file.

Cheers,

Brian

On Thursday, 9 November 2023 at 07:53:21 UTC+13 IZZI ZMAN wrote:

1) Can I have QM running at the same time (Ubuntu machine) ? If so, what needs to be done to keep them separate (complete filesystem, etc...) I notice the install references the /usr/qmsys directory and overlays everything. I know since I clobbered my install once already and had to restore !

 

Izzi

[Donald Montaine]

shut down the existing commercial qm instance with qm -stop

Change everything in the script that reference /usr/qmsys to a different location

*Change the scarletdme.conf that gets written to /etc to reference QMSYS to a different directory

*You would also have to change settings in the scarlet*.server and scarlet*.socket files in the

/usr/lib/systemd/system directory.

*(easiest to do after install, so that is why turn off existing qm) first

If your are using ssh to access the services, you would need to have the ssh server listen on two 

different ports and redirect the input appropriately.  I have no idea how that would be done.

These are the changes I can think of quickly.  However there may be more configuration changes

that would have to be made

As I mentioned before, the current version of commercial qm is designed to allow multi-tenanting. 

The version that scarletdme was based on did not have that capability.  In fact the original OpenQM GPL

version was based on inetd, not systemctl.  The systemctl support has been added by the current 

developers.

The bash installer script was not designed to co-exist with an existing qm installation.  Actually that can be 

said for the OpenQM 2.6.6 commercial installer as well.