Residue Scaling in moose

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Max

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Apr 27, 2016, 6:50:57 PM4/27/16
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Hi all,


I am simulating a viscoplasticity solid mechanics problem coupling with heat conduction equation, I just found out my residual norm for 'chi' (temperature) and the displacement field are not the same order of magnitude.

I have read about the Scaling option to give better convergence, I am wondering can someone point me to a couple of exmaples ? 


Thanks,

Max


3 Nonlinear |R| = 8.272558e-01

      0 Linear |R| = 8.272558e-01

      1 Linear |R| = 3.721311e-01

      2 Linear |R| = 1.345872e-01

      3 Linear |R| = 4.131587e-02

      4 Linear |R| = 1.609853e-02

      5 Linear |R| = 4.858614e-03

      6 Linear |R| = 1.629061e-03

      7 Linear |R| = 5.060169e-04

      8 Linear |R| = 1.631621e-04

      9 Linear |R| = 5.342711e-05

     10 Linear |R| = 1.637924e-05

     11 Linear |R| = 5.142239e-06

    |residual|_2 of individual variables:

                     chi:    4.65369e-10

                     disp_x: 0.000314444

                     disp_y: 0.000577023


 4 Nonlinear |R| = 6.571377e-04

 Solve Converged!

Andrew....@csiro.au

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Apr 27, 2016, 7:25:42 PM4/27/16
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from memory you just add

scaling = 1000

to your ‘chi’ Variable (assuming your ‘chi’ residual is 1000 smaller than your displacement residuals)

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Derek Gaston

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Apr 27, 2016, 8:34:21 PM4/27/16
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Do the solve look ok though?  This might not actually be a problem.

Derek

Max

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Apr 27, 2016, 8:44:57 PM4/27/16
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The solution right , I am just wondering if the scaling would help the results to converge faster ? 

Max

Andrew....@csiro.au

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Apr 27, 2016, 9:23:26 PM4/27/16
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i believe it would in certain cases.  just give it a try and see.  In my experience if the residuals are different by a factor of 100 it makes no difference whatsoever.

 

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Benjamin Spencer

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May 13, 2016, 10:56:14 AM5/13/16
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For coupled thermal/mechanics problems, we've found that the difference in the scaling isn't really an issue.  Usually the thermal solution converges more quickly than the mechanics problem, so it's pretty normal to see a far lower final residual in the thermal problem, so that the difference in the residuals in the converged solution is far larger than the difference in the initial residuals.

- Ben


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