The Epstein conundrum

[Molly Brogan]

The human race has come a long way with advancements in science, technology and communication. But it seems we haven't moved an inch in our treatment of children. Sure, we give it window dressing in developed countries, send the kids to "school" that dulls them more than teaches them. We let big pharma poison them for profits and our own convenience (not talking about life saving measures there.) I find it inconceivable that they are still passed around and trafficked in broad daylight and we turn a blind eye with fake discretion. How can we be so close, and yet so far from an evolution of human decency? 

[archytas]

These are the kind of questions we need to be in dialogue about Molly.  Some weird stuff gets in the way, including prudery.  I've been looking at the classical age of late and wondering how we end up with a cleaned-up version of it as the origin of western values and society.  In reality it was grim.  There is no doubt something that allows us to wander in the current world averting our eyes.  Athens and Rome are held as a model and yet are almost certainly the worst.  Perhaps the loons who present such classical ages to us through "great" art, literature and reverence when the societies were based on slavery and violent exploitation also intend to draw our eyes away from the realities of the present?  Typically, some upper-class floozie academic flounces through what's left of ancient Athens' red light district proclaiming jauntily that Socrates was born here with no thought for slaves crippled in the silver mines or the girls and boys of the brothels.  This was a way of living that even crippled Socrates.  He was a soldier for 30 years and must have been involved with genocide.  Epstein is just yet one more example of how phony our societies are.

[Molly Brogan]

Much is phony, yes. What our human natures deem unbearable about the world seems to spawn aversion instead of inspiring action toward decency. I suppose with the example of the modern Catholic Church's inability to establish a morality that does not include exploitation of children, it is easier to look away. But somehow I think it goes beyond morality, to the very heart of human nature that society cripples early on. A viscous cycle of mistreatment from generation to generation that receives no priority.

[Allan H]

I have been following Epstein for decades now and it leaves me wondering about the group of people around him..  I learned to look at the people that surround a person and you will soon know who they are and their morality.
The worst part is I have no idea of how to  deal with the problem..
There are to many coincidences  happening at the same that creates a lot of questions.. years ago it would have been a team question. We would have found the answers..  even money couldn't hide what was happening.. unfortunately  every one I kew us either retired or dead..  I do know  there are huge hidden files that were kept out if sight. Those files were used to track the impossible.  They are not something  that was discussed .. I do know the team I was part of was not the only one.
The system  was designed  to solve problems   it could also used to cause things to disappear too.
I have been gone to long those files disappearing I would seriously doubt that  D *Rump and his swamp crew would never be given access.




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