Money backup password incorrect

[Dave Cook]

I recently had to reset my laptop with a fresh install of windows i have always backed up my money file regularly always keeping the most recent. i copied the backup to a usb before the reset. i have reinstalled Money 2005 but when trying to restore from the backup file it asks for the passsword and when i enter the only password i have ever used it gives an error message saying incorrect password is there anyway around this or have i really lost all of my data. Thanks for reading Dave

[Troels Bjerre]

Are you using the same keyboard layout as before? Thanks to Microsoft, that's my standard error.

[Cal Learner]

You cannot use the Money 2005 install disk to reinstall Money 2005. You can discard that unless you want to keep it as a momento.

See Download links on https://microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/intro/#downloads

I suspect you need tMoney 2005 UK – QFE2, but you select the appropriate version.

Also, reconsider your backup plan. Keep more than one vintage. If you always overwrite your backups, you are in danger of a corrupted file or file system saving a corrupted file.

[Bill & Michelle Becker]

Dave,

A little more detail on Cal's response.  Money 2005 received an online update that is, of course, not included in the installation disk.  So you need to get the updated version of the installation file from the link that Cal gave.  In addition, the "incorrect password" error message is misleading.  It means that you are trying to open a Money file with a Money program version that is older than the version that created the file.

As for backups, having more than one is essential.  Flash drives are cheap so I strongly recommend having several that you can rotate through to keep multiple (maybe weekly) backups.  Be sure to store at least one drive "off site" to protect against a disaster.  It's also a good idea to also save the Money installation file on each drive to protect against the event that the download site goes away.  That's highly unlikely, but life is uncertain.

Bill Becker

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[Dave Cook]

Hi Cal thanks for your reply I did not reinstall from disc I did download but not sure of the source, it did not look as professional as your link so I will try to uninstall and re download will post an update if I have any luck Thanks again

[Dave Cook]

Thank you too you also Bill not sure i can remember what version i was using but never had a disc so it was a download originally will see what the earliest version is that i can get Thanks i am hoping all is not lost

[Bill & Michelle Becker]

Dave,

Actually, you want the most recent version in that link that will open a Money file for your region.. For the UK and International that's 2005.  For the US and Canada it's US Money Plus Deluxe Sunset.  You can see the version of your current Money installation by opening the sample.mny file found in C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Money.  (The exact folder name will vary depending on the Money version.)

This Wikipedia article gives the various versions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Money

If you have a US version then after you install US Money Plus Deluxe Sunset you also need to do a replacement of the mnyob99.dll file.  See

https://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/d28d6921-1f01-430f-b33e-f5a3ec47077b/important-patch-for-money-plus-maybe-20062007-mnyob99dll?forum=money

Post back if you need help with that.

Bill Becker

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[Dave Cook]

Hi Bill as i have no idea what version i was using when the back up was created which download would you recommend i really am a bit out of my depth here this is the name of the backup i am trying to restore
QDATA4 Backup.mbf01.mbf 

[Cal Learner]

If you first installed in 2005 or before, the version you need is usally determined by what country you were in when you first installed Money. 

How many copies of that  QDATA4 Backup.mbf01.mbf  file do you have. If the answer is one, make another copy onto different media  to guard against a failure of some sort.

Do you have the old *.mny file still available?

[Bill & Michelle Becker]

Dave,

I just realized that the link that Cal Lerner provided (https://microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/intro/#downloads) has a wealth of information on Money.  It is well worth the time it takes to read through it.

As for the version you have just installed, - find the sample.mny file on your computer, double-click it, and Money will open with a sample file.  You can then click on Help>About Microsoft Money and get the version number.  Then you can find that in the link that Cal provided.

We will help you through this.  Hang in there!

Bill Becker

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[Dave Cook]

Hi All i really appreciate all the help and i have made a few copies of my backups on usb and hard drive i probably wont have much time until the weekend to play with this. i have been racking my brain to think what version i may have been using before i reset the pc and think it may have been as early as 2000 not sure though. what is the earliest version still available to download Thanks

[Bill & Michelle Becker]

Dave,

Maybe I misunderstood, but you said that you installed Money and that is when you discovered the password problem.  Since you have Money installed, you can open the sample.mny file and find the version that you have.  Or you can use the process described in the excellent reverence that Cal gave:

Determining what version of Money you have installed

If you are able to run Money, select Help, and then select About Money.  An alternative method…

C:\Program Files (x86)\Microsoft Money Plus\MNYCoreFiles\msmoney.exe

Right-click on the file  ⇑  and select Properties.   Product name and version will be revealed after you select the Details tab…

It's from this page:

https://microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/intro/#downloads

which has additional excellent information about using Money.

Bill Becker

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[Dave Cook]

Hi All

this is a screen shot of the sample mny file properties which shows Money 2005

[Dave Cook]

step by step this is what happens 

file

restore backup

[ian.t...@ntlworld.com]

Perhaps a file named QDATA4.mny already exists in that directory. Try changing the filename for the restored file?? Good luck.

 

Regards

Ian

 

 

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step by step this is what happens 

file

restore backup

On Friday, 4 February 2022 at 13:08:59 UTC Dave Cook wrote:

Hi All

this is a screen shot of the sample mny file properties which shows Money 2005

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[rustyfender04]

Is there a way to do a file integrity check for the mny file in question?

[First Last]

You can try using  salv.exe (http://moneymvps.org/faq/article/328.aspx)
OR if you need a "second opinion", you can try the export tool from sunriise (https://bitbucket.org/hleofxquotesteam/dist-sunriise/wiki/Home). It can parse the mny file and export the content to CSV files. Not a direct file checker per se but if sunriise can export the content then it is likely that the file content is OK.

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[joe dempsey]

When you say backup, do uyou mean you backed up from within  Money - the file extension will .mbf - or are you talking about a copy of the Money file (.mny) you made using Windows?

[Dave Cook]

hello all i wish i could tell you all what i did but to be honest im not sure myself i downloaded and installed  US Money Plus Deluxe Sunset 

which prompted me to remove earlier versions i then tried to restore my mbf file and failed tried again today and hey presto it worked and all my accounts are back with all my data. I would like to thank you all for your help i really was beginning to think i had lost it all.

[Bill & Michelle Becker]

Dave,

Very glad to hear that you are up and running.  One more thing, if you haven't done it already.  You should download a patched version of the mnyob99.dll file and replace the one that comes with Money Sunset with the downloaded one.  The process to do this is described on this page:

https://microsoftmoneyoffline.wordpress.com/2012/12/02/windows-8-64-bit-version-compatibility-with-sunset-money/

and the patched file is here:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/zj0amk06ax57cfg/mnyob99.dll/file

Post back if you need help in doing this.

Bill Becker

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[rustyfender04]

Congratulations, Dave!

[Dave Cook]

Thanks everyone Rusty there was a bit of luck involved 

Bill i have downloaded the patch and will have a go at the installation when i have a little time in case  anything goes wrong