What about monitoring?
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Werner Keil
Aug 8, 2016, 10:37:10 AM8/8/16
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Hi,
Similar to logging, I wanted to bring up the monitoring question more explicitly than some thread (I think it was about "actuators" in Spring Boot) did.
For Java there are a couple of solutions:
Similar to logging, I wanted to bring up the monitoring question more explicitly than some thread (I think it was about "actuators" in Spring Boot) did.
For Java there are a couple of solutions:
- Parfait: https://github.com/performancecopilot/parfait maintained mostly by Red Hat, part of the very popular Performance Co-Pilot suite http://pcp.io/)
- DropWizard Metrics: http://metrics.dropwizard.io/3.1.0/ part of DropWizard, but pretty independent of the rest. Other tools like Parfait also contain Metrics modules
- JavaMelody: https://github.com/javamelody/javamelody/wiki - comes bundled with e.g. Jenkins and other projects
- MosKiTo: http://www.moskito.org/
- Stagemonitor: http://www.stagemonitor.org/
- JAMon: http://jamonapi.sourceforge.net/
Probably more, feel free to share others if they're really relevant.
Quite likely some "glue" could also be of value here, similar to e.g. configuration or logging.
Cheers,
Werner
Werner Keil
Aug 22, 2016, 11:16:11 AM8/22/16
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Looks like DropWizard Metrics also got a ("somewhat" portable) CDI extension module for monitoring:
https://github.com/astefanutti/metrics-cdi
Werner
https://github.com/astefanutti/metrics-cdi
Werner
Jean-Louis Monteiro
Aug 22, 2016, 11:19:24 AM8/22/16
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Apache Sirona is another one with some CDI support as well.
What do you mean by "("somewhat" portable)"?
Did you try it and can share some more precise feedback?
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Werner Keil
Aug 22, 2016, 11:36:29 AM8/22/16
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Thanks for the pointer.
Sirona uses yet another Configuration API: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/sirona/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/sirona/configuration/Configuration.java?view=markup
despite what was proposed (in a slightly similar way, but a few extra methods) for Geronimo (or here) a while ago. By the same people who also contribute to Sirona;-| That's scary. Of course it's still incubating, maybe things improve on that, too...?
Will have a look if I can, thanks for mentioning
I'm only referring to the table
It's mixing CDI Implementations and actual containers quite a bit (e.g. why would Wildfly XYZ not use Weld, too?;-) so chances are it also works in say Glassfish, Paraya or TomEE if they use one of the implementations.
The DeltaSpike Jenkins instances https://builds.apache.org/view/A-D/view/DeltaSpike/ also apply a similar mix btw, maybe if certain containers stick to the RI or a particular implementation of CDI anyway, that's enough.
Werner
Sirona uses yet another Configuration API: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/sirona/trunk/api/src/main/java/org/apache/sirona/configuration/Configuration.java?view=markup
despite what was proposed (in a slightly similar way, but a few extra methods) for Geronimo (or here) a while ago. By the same people who also contribute to Sirona;-| That's scary. Of course it's still incubating, maybe things improve on that, too...?
Will have a look if I can, thanks for mentioning
I'm only referring to the table
| Container | Version | Environment |
|---|---|---|
| Weld | 2.3.4.Final |
Java SE 7,8 / CDI 1.2 |
| OpenWebBeans | 1.6.3 |
Java SE 7,8 / CDI 1.2 |
| Jetty | 9.3.3 |
Servlet 3.1 |
| WildFly 8 | 8.2.1.Final |
Java EE 7 |
| WildFly 9 | 9.0.2.Final |
Java EE 7 |
| WildFly 10 | 10.0.0.Final |
Java EE 7 |
It's mixing CDI Implementations and actual containers quite a bit (e.g. why would Wildfly XYZ not use Weld, too?;-) so chances are it also works in say Glassfish, Paraya or TomEE if they use one of the implementations.
The DeltaSpike Jenkins instances https://builds.apache.org/view/A-D/view/DeltaSpike/ also apply a similar mix btw, maybe if certain containers stick to the RI or a particular implementation of CDI anyway, that's enough.
Werner
On Monday, August 22, 2016 at 5:19:24 PM UTC+2, Jean-Louis Monteiro wrote:
Apache Sirona is another one with some CDI support as well.What do you mean by "("somewhat" portable)"?Did you try it and can share some more precise feedback?
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Werner Keil <werne...@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks like DropWizard Metrics also got a ("somewhat" portable) CDI extension module for monitoring:
https://github.com/astefanutti/metrics-cdi
Werner
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Werner Keil
Aug 22, 2016, 11:39:43 AM8/22/16
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Btw. judging from the last commits (3 months ago) Sirona does not seem extremely active.
Maybe it's just summer holidays or because some of its committers are also involved in other projects or commercial products?
Maybe it's just summer holidays or because some of its committers are also involved in other projects or commercial products?
Jean-Louis Monteiro
Aug 22, 2016, 3:26:43 PM8/22/16
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Not following up on Sirona as it is not the right place. Just mentioned for information.
Well, the portability might not be perfect, but it does not sound that bad.
At least they tested and are very transparent with the support. Weld and OWB are supported and are also the 2 well-known CDI implementations, and therefor a lot of App Servers using them would work (to be tested of course).
Container is also commonly used for EJB, CDI so I'm not really to focused on that.
EJB Spec calls it EJBContainer, Weld calls it WelDContainer, Deltaspike calls it CdiContainer
Seems like a detail to me.
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Werner Keil
Aug 22, 2016, 4:05:20 PM8/22/16
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Especially for "Fat JAR" scenarios, also look at DropWizard (the Metrics also work independently) I think the "container" becomes less important.
I have not tested it with e.g. Spring Boot myself, but one of the modules PCP Parfait (also mentioning it mainly as an example, I did so before in a different thread) comes is especially tailored to Spring.
Aside from the obvious JMX I don't think Parfait targets CDI with a special module or annotation support yet, but given Red Hat is currently a main contributor, I guess it could be of interet to Parfait as well.
The most perfect solution would of course be a portable annotation, similar to what Antonin (in fact he also works for Red Hat;-) did, but allowing to back them with a few solutions, e.g.
- DropWizard Metrics
- Parfait
- Sirona
and possibly a few others.
The annotations could be something to define under Microprofile.
Werner
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