Preferenace for an updated physical version of the Metamath book?
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David A. Wheeler
May 21, 2019, 11:53:11 PM5/21/19
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Norman Megill & I plan to make available a physical printed version of the updated "Metamath book".
An old version is already available (via Lulu), but it's rather obsolete. We now have a significantly updated version of the Metamath book. We think some people would prefer to be able to get a printed copy of the updated version, so we're trying to make it possible to get.
IMPORTANT: The PDF and .tex files will CONTINUE to be freely available, and the .tex file will continue to be CC0. The physical book publication won't be a money-making activity (we may ask for a small royalty, but there's a very good chance the "royalty" will not be enough to cover initial costs). The physical copy will simply be a convenience for those who want a physical copy (say, to take to the beach!).
I have a few questions, for those who might want to get the physical printed version:
* Would hardback or paperback be preferred? Paperback is a little cheaper, but hardback is more resilient. I don't know the prices yet, but the current version in paperback is $11.25, and I'm guessing a hardback would be around $23-ish (US dollars). My guess is that hardback would be better, since if you want to minimize costs, you can always print the PDF yourself. There's also the thought that a hardbound might be taken "more seriously". But maybe everyone wants a paperback!
* What size is desired? The previous physical book was 9"x6", so that's the "easy" size to choose again. We could print on US letter (8.5"X11", or slightly smaller if hardcover). We plan to use Lulu, a self-publishing US service, and they don't support European paper sizes :-).
No guarantee that we can make everyone happy, of course.
That said, I want to hear who'd be interested in the physical copy of the book & what their preferences would be. If you aren't interested then just carry on.
Thanks!
--- David A. Wheeler
An old version is already available (via Lulu), but it's rather obsolete. We now have a significantly updated version of the Metamath book. We think some people would prefer to be able to get a printed copy of the updated version, so we're trying to make it possible to get.
IMPORTANT: The PDF and .tex files will CONTINUE to be freely available, and the .tex file will continue to be CC0. The physical book publication won't be a money-making activity (we may ask for a small royalty, but there's a very good chance the "royalty" will not be enough to cover initial costs). The physical copy will simply be a convenience for those who want a physical copy (say, to take to the beach!).
I have a few questions, for those who might want to get the physical printed version:
* Would hardback or paperback be preferred? Paperback is a little cheaper, but hardback is more resilient. I don't know the prices yet, but the current version in paperback is $11.25, and I'm guessing a hardback would be around $23-ish (US dollars). My guess is that hardback would be better, since if you want to minimize costs, you can always print the PDF yourself. There's also the thought that a hardbound might be taken "more seriously". But maybe everyone wants a paperback!
* What size is desired? The previous physical book was 9"x6", so that's the "easy" size to choose again. We could print on US letter (8.5"X11", or slightly smaller if hardcover). We plan to use Lulu, a self-publishing US service, and they don't support European paper sizes :-).
No guarantee that we can make everyone happy, of course.
That said, I want to hear who'd be interested in the physical copy of the book & what their preferences would be. If you aren't interested then just carry on.
Thanks!
--- David A. Wheeler
Alexander van der Vekens
May 22, 2019, 12:36:06 PM5/22/19
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I would like to have the possibility to buy a physical book, preferably hardcover. The format of the current version is fine for me.
Alexander
Alexander
David A. Wheeler
May 22, 2019, 4:55:47 PM5/22/19
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On Wed, 22 May 2019 09:36:06 -0700 (PDT), "'Alexander van der Vekens' via Metamath" <meta...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I would like to have the possibility to buy a physical book, preferably
> hardcover. The format of the current version is fine for me.
Good to know! Do you have a size preference? E.g., 6x9 or 8.5x11?
> I would like to have the possibility to buy a physical book, preferably
> hardcover. The format of the current version is fine for me.
--- David A. Wheeler
Alexander van der Vekens
May 23, 2019, 12:41:24 AM5/23/19
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I have no preference - 6x9 will be fine, but any other similar size will also be OK for me.
David A. Wheeler
May 24, 2019, 6:40:01 PM5/24/19
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On Wed, 22 May 2019 21:41:23 -0700 (PDT), "'Alexander van der Vekens' via Metamath" <meta...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I have no preference - 6x9 will be fine, but any other similar size will
> also be OK for me.
Currently it looks like "6x9 hardcover" is the winning book format.
> I have no preference - 6x9 will be fine, but any other similar size will
> also be OK for me.
I want to ensure the book's font size is actually readable. It's currently 10point, which is small, and I just realized that the way I've been testing it may be misleading when it's printed.
There are also a few last-minute *reported* errata that need fixing. If you want anything else fixed before publishing, please send an issue (or better a pull request) ASAP to:
https://github.com/metamath/metamath-book
We want this out soon so that people can get their beach books...!
--- David A. Wheeler
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