WPS with groove welding will also qualify Fillet welding.

Mohammed Ghani

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Dear Experts,

Can any one suggest if Groove welding WPS will also allow welding with fillet. please guide with reference standard clause.

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Dear Mohammed Ghani,

please refer ASME SEC-9 para QW-202.2(C) and QW-451.4

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When ASME is the Code, yes
This is not the case for EN 15614-1

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Agreed with Dr. Georgious,

This is listed as non essential Variable in ASME section IX.

Please refer QW : 4.2.30

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mohd firdaus

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What about AWS D1.1?. It is WPS groove cover for fillet?.

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When ASME is the Code, yes
This is not the case for EN 15614-1

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I Think that the question was about welding and not about qualification.

Whenever a WPS (whether Standard, pre-qualified or qualified) prepared, the manufacturer allow to use it only with values or in the range which mentioned in that WPS.

The qualification has a different story. One or more WPS's may qualified with single PQR (or number of PQR's which are less than the number of WPS's and in some cases one PQR for each WPS) under the criteria and qualification rules of the design and/or qualification code.

So, in summary, if you have a WPS for welding a groove weld, you allowed to use it just for that. For a fillet weld you should prepare a new WPS. however both may qualified with a single WPS.

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Dear

WPS is restricted to what for it is written, some of the WPS written for fillet, Groove, fillet + Groove

These are based on Limitation by Qualified PQR

For your query

what is the reference code for PQR qualification , with that code if the PQR limitations allow to use for both just rewriting the WPS as per your requirement with PQR limitation will serve you

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