Difficulty in interpretation of ASME sec IX QW403.9

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Maulik Dodiya

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Apr 18, 2013, 3:03:33 AM4/18/13
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Dear Sirs,
 
I am not getting what exactly ASME Sec IX QW403.9 suggests. Can anybody help me understanding this cluase more deeply.
 
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Maulik

james gerald

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Apr 18, 2013, 3:57:39 AM4/18/13
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QW 403.9 states that if any weld pass in Single or Multi pass weld exceeds 13 mm (height of each individual pass) then the Base metal thickness beyond  1.1 times the Qualification thickness is an essentail variable that is for any change in Qualification Thickness beyond 1.1 T you need to qualify a new procedure.
 
Normally in SMAW,GTAW, GMAW,FCAW and mostly SAW you don't exceed 13mm of the weld metal thickness for each pass but mostly in Electrogas and Electroslag welding the Thickness exceeds 13 mm.
 
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This clauses says each pass thickness for smaw saw proces must not be more than 13mm,if it is more than 13 mm than the qualification range will be 1.1 times of PQR test plate.
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QW 403.9 states that if any weld pass in Single or Multi pass weld exceeds 13 mm (height of each individual pass) then the Base metal thickness beyond 1.1 times the Qualification thickness is an essentail variable that is for any change in Qualification Thickness beyond 1.1 T you need to qualify a new procedure.

Normally in SMAW,GTAW, GMAW,FCAW and mostly SAW you don't exceed 13mm of the weld metal thickness for each pass but mostly in Electrogas and Electroslag welding the Thickness exceeds 13 mm.

Thanks & Regards


J.Gerald Jayakumar
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Chauhan Hemal

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Apr 18, 2013, 8:40:03 AM4/18/13
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Dear Maulik,

      This clause says if any pass in any type of welding process if more than 13 mm,the quilification thickness reange will the 1.1 times basemetal thickness.means if you found any pass more than 13 mm thickness,you can deposite weldmetal limited upto basemetal thickness used in PQR.
     Means you need to quilify WPS particularly as per job thickness wise....if your PQR test plate thickness is 30 mm you can deposite weldmetal upto 30mm only and WPS will be quilified upto that particular thickness only....and you need to quilify WPS as per job thicknesswise as per requirement....

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hemal chauhan
Engineers india limited


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This clauses says each pass thickness for smaw saw proces must not be more than 13mm,if it is more than 13 mm than the qualification range will be 1.1 times of PQR test plate.
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QW 403.9 states that if any weld pass in Single or Multi pass weld exceeds 13 mm (height of each individual pass) then the Base metal thickness beyond  1.1 times the Qualification thickness is an essentail variable that is for any change in Qualification Thickness beyond 1.1 T you need to qualify a new procedure.

Normally in SMAW,GTAW, GMAW,FCAW and mostly SAW you don't exceed 13mm of the weld metal thickness for each pass but mostly in Electrogas and Electroslag welding the Thickness exceeds 13 mm.

Thanks & Regards


J.Gerald Jayakumar
00968-99438165


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Dear Sirs,

I am not getting what exactly ASME Sec IX QW403.9 suggests. Can anybody help me understanding this cluase more deeply.

Regards,
Maulik
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Binoy Soman

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Apr 18, 2013, 8:17:57 AM4/18/13
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Dear Maulik,

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Dear Sirs,

 

I am not getting what exactly ASME Sec IX QW403.9 suggests. Can anybody help me understanding this cluase more deeply.

 

Regards,

Maulik

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Souravbohray

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If it is greater than 13mm than impact test is complusory

Souravbohray

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It is max or minimum generally upto 2T is max in this case instead of 2T ,1.1T than what is minimum thickness

Mohamed Elsayed

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Mar 28, 2020, 3:02:03 AM3/28/20
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Thank you for the informative response. 


On Thursday, 18 April 2013 02:57:39 UTC-5, gerr...@yahoo.com wrote:
QW 403.9 states that if any weld pass in Single or Multi pass weld exceeds 13 mm (height of each individual pass) then the Base metal thickness beyond  1.1 times the Qualification thickness is an essentail variable that is for any change in Qualification Thickness beyond 1.1 T you need to qualify a new procedure.
 
Normally in SMAW,GTAW, GMAW,FCAW and mostly SAW you don't exceed 13mm of the weld metal thickness for each pass but mostly in Electrogas and Electroslag welding the Thickness exceeds 13 mm.
 
Thanks & Regards

J.Gerald Jayakumar
00968-99438165
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Subject: [MW:17461] Difficulty in interpretation of ASME sec IX QW403.9
Dear Sirs,
 
I am not getting what exactly ASME Sec IX QW403.9 suggests. Can anybody help me understanding this cluase more deeply.
 
Regards,
Maulik
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George Dilintas

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This is an essential variable and must be addressed in WPS of the following processes:
SMAW
SAW
GMAW & FCAW
ESW
EGW
a YES or NO has to be entered in the WPS if any of the above processed is involved. 


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