Filler wire Button weld test

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Ponnikumar

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Nov 29, 2022, 5:25:29 AM11/29/22
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Dear gentlemen,
My client inspector told me to do button weld test on plate for filler wire 309L . The dimension are follow as asme sec II c then need to do PMI verification 

My query is any requirements by code for filler wire button test for all filler and electrode and why it required ? 



Faisal Quadri

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Nov 29, 2022, 6:05:47 AM11/29/22
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SAES A 206  Aramco requirement 

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Ponnikumar

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Nov 29, 2022, 10:17:18 PM11/29/22
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Hi sir,
Except Aramco standard. Can you explain from ASME codes 

Mostafa Kamel

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Nov 29, 2022, 10:17:19 PM11/29/22
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Hi
There are NO code requirements for button weld test. Kindly review project specification or ask the client the reason for the button weld test. Maybe he has a doubt about the electrode or something like this.

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RAJESH PATNAIK

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Nov 29, 2022, 11:55:20 PM11/29/22
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Dear Gents,

This is client spec requirements in most of the companies, as per KOC , we generally do button test
To confirm chemical composition of low alloy and high alloys electrodes per heat.

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Faisal Quadri

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Nov 30, 2022, 12:48:21 AM11/30/22
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Dear 
See how you will ensure at the receiving stage you received the correct alloy material(Consumables) tell me ????
The weld button is like a test coupon where the PMI probe can easily seat and you can verify the chemistry.

I am working on ARAMCO specs, for us it's mandatory requirement

due to PMI prob inaccessibility on material like consumables and weld , weld button is alternate, in Aramco Spec

check ASME /ASTM for PMI requirements.



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K Dinesh

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Nov 30, 2022, 2:36:29 AM11/30/22
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Hi Ponni,

Check ASME Sec.II Part C SFA 5.9. Annex Clause A5

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Dec 14, 2022, 11:06:37 PM12/14/22
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Dear Mr. Ponnni

If the Filler Metals are provides as per ASME SEC II C then the Test Certificate shall be as per ASME SEC II C requirement of SFA-5.01M/SFA-5.01. No other tests are required as per ASME while receiving the consumables.

Generally for Corrosion Resistant Materials, Clients specify PMI testing of materials at least for a single item in a lot. This is based on the client requirements. 

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