E-7018-1 is better then E7018

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Ghulam Mustafa

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Sep 2, 2020, 2:00:08 AM9/2/20
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Dear All,
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i want discuss that i was gone yesterday for inspection in other company as a third party, i checked WPS for welding inspection, during inspection i observed that welder used E7018-1 Electrode instead of E7018 on structure. structure material A572 Grade-B and A-36. E7018-1 can problem or not?
can any one tell me about this problem.

yomna Ahmed

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No proplems

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Mohamed Elsayed

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The difference between E 7018 and 7018-1 is the impact test temperature, so 7018-1 is better than 7018

Sourav Bohrays

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only difference is impact test temprature.

Chandan Singh

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Dear ,

There is no problem, basically E7018-1 electrode used for Impact Value.




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George Dilintas

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Better performance in low temperature. Same A and F-no

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HENNING John

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Sep 2, 2020, 11:49:31 AM9/2/20
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Consider it to be a premium subset of the E7018.  Basically same properties but with chemistry optimized to achieve low temperature impact properties.  It is generally acceptable to use E7018-1 in lieu of E7018 unless customer has specific requirements regarding qualification. 

 

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Hi Ghulam,

E 7018-1  electrodes contains more Mn than E-7018 electrode, at the same strength(UTS) level, 70 Ksi. The advantage is better impact . Typically E-7018-1 are designed for impact up to -46 Deg c , while the same for E-7018 is up to -29 Deg C.

In order to avoid duplicity or redundant work nowadays  it’s very commons for electrode manufacturers to classify same welding electrode as E-7018-1/E-7018, which is called dual certification.

Please look at the highlighted text from, SFA 5.1 , Sec-II, Pt-C, on E-7018-1 welding electrodes.

As the mechanical and other properties of the deposited are not changed, a change from E-7018 to E-7018-1 , will not cause any harm the welds . However if should be addressed in WPS or regularized through an NCR.

 

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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Sep 2, 2020, 11:36:29 PM9/2/20
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When subjected to SR, 7018-1 gives better mechanical value compared to 7018 due to more manganese in -1. Better ductility , cost is more

james gerald

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Sep 3, 2020, 12:05:43 AM9/3/20
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Hi Mr. Goswami,

Please can you throw some Light on the Manganese content of E7018 & E 7018-1 as AWS 5.1 restricts Manganese to 1.6% and what will happen if increased beyond this range.

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J.Gerald Jayakumar




Guru. Thilakar

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Sep 5, 2020, 7:02:42 AM9/5/20
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E7018-1 is good weld ability for above 32 thickness, last month in structural I welded E7018 for 32mm thk web with 32mm thk flange IS2062 all the fillet joint CRACKED immediately. So after that we used E7018-1 no crack observed.

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Ghulam Mustafa

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Sep 8, 2020, 1:31:49 AM9/8/20
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Thanks to all of you for solving these problems.

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