Repair WPs

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udaya bhaskar

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Dec 2, 2020, 10:30:19 PM12/2/20
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Dear Giants,

I want to know about little doubt on piping welding repair WPS.
WPS made with 6010 and 7010 electrodes for regular welding.
Now I can plan with  6010 and 7018 electrodes for Repair WPS on the same .
Material :API5L PSL2 grade P1G1
is it allowable?
please correct me.
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Jamie Reyes

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Dec 3, 2020, 12:58:28 AM12/3/20
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If no impacts are involved, then yes. If I’m understanding you correctly, that is.....

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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Dec 3, 2020, 1:33:30 AM12/3/20
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u can not use 7018 in place of 7010  because Fno is different which is an essential variable.

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venkat chikkala

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Dec 3, 2020, 2:28:27 AM12/3/20
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Dear, 

You can use E6010 & E7018 for preparation of New WPS for repair, if project specification is silent about selection of electrode.

But existing WPS shall not be used with this combination of electrodes.

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CH V RAMANA 

Jamie Reyes

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Dec 3, 2020, 2:28:27 AM12/3/20
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Can you weld repair 7010 with 7018? Yes, With a PQR that is qualified per F4 Electrode,  along with all other essential variables. Kannayeram is correct. Hope this clears up any confusion.

udaya bhaskar

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Dec 3, 2020, 2:28:28 AM12/3/20
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Thank you for your advice.
But as per API1104 both F number is A5.5 . 
Table 1—Filler Metal Groups
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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Dec 3, 2020, 6:37:16 AM12/3/20
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7010 comes under Group no 1 whereas  7018 comes under Group no 3.  Hydrogen level is more in 7010 than 7018

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On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:30 PM Kannayeram Gnanapandithan <kgpan...@gmail.com> wrote:
see the group no, no sfano. SFA no is not essential, only Group no or Fno as per ASME

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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Dec 3, 2020, 6:37:17 AM12/3/20
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see the group no, no sfano. SFA no is not essential, only Group no or Fno as per ASME
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Mohan q8

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Dec 3, 2020, 6:37:31 AM12/3/20
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Dear, 

Pls clarify that your construction code is Piping of Pipeline?

For Pipeline and as per API 1104 you need to have qualified Repair WPS for repair. 



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TDK YOKESH

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Dec 13, 2020, 11:02:19 PM12/13/20
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7010 you must be doing downhill and 7018 uphill progression. So your progression will change. 

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