Impact energy Vs Structure

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EmaD FaRaHanI

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Mar 24, 2021, 11:13:22 PM3/24/21
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Dear Friends,
Consider we have a mild-steel, cooling fast from welding temperature, we must have a fine grain structure with martensite formation.
Hypothetically, considering that we want to use this structure. I was wondering what is the relation between the impact energy and the structure? will it be decreased due to martensite formation? or increased due to fine grain? I understand that we don't use the martensite state of structures and we need to quench and tempering them.

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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Mar 24, 2021, 11:59:28 PM3/24/21
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u have given answer also

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Vinoth kanna ramachandran

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Mar 24, 2021, 11:59:56 PM3/24/21
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Dear sir,

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Mild steel - BCC structure (body centred cubic ) 
Austenite stainless steel - FCC structure (face centered cubic) 
Martensite - FCT structure  ( face centred tetragonal )

coarse grain means - less FCT crystals , fine grain means - More FCT crystals. 

Tetragonal structure can't absorb more impact energy , due to its crystal structure , since it prevents its movement . if it's fine grain , still more difficulty to absorb energy . 

That's why FCC crystals have better impact properties than any other in the steel family .Fine Grain FCC - greater impact energy absorption.



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sunil kaushik

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Mar 27, 2021, 1:35:11 AM3/27/21
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What is the difference between BCT and FCT structure?

Vinoth kanna ramachandran

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Mar 27, 2021, 1:46:37 AM3/27/21
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Hi 

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When carbon steel (BCC) - cools rapidly it forms BCT -martensite . 
When Austenitic Stainless steel (FCC) - Rapid cool may form FCT martensite . Based on CCT AND TTT diagrams.  



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Vinay Thattey

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Mar 29, 2021, 6:55:23 AM3/29/21
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The martensite phase essentially consists of a metastable iron phase oversaturated in carbon. Since the more carbon a steel has, the harder and more brittle it is, a martensitic steel is very hard and brittle.  Because the cooling rate is so sudden, carbon does not have enough time for diffusion. Yes ,impact energy absorbing capacity will decrease..

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George Dilintas

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Mar 29, 2021, 11:50:51 AM3/29/21
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Martensite formation depends also on the chemical composition and not only on the cooling rate.
The last weld bead has not a fine grain structure. It has more a dendritic structure.
Fine grain martensite will give low impact energy
Fine grain ferrite will give better impact energy.
Residual stresses also affect impact energy in a negative way.
In the mild steel the PWHT is to relief the residual stresses and not to temper the martensite.


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