IMPACT TEST FAILLURE

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QA/QC

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Oct 7, 2021, 4:23:35 AM10/7/21
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DEAR MASTER 

we have a test coupon 7.11 thichness with flange a106 with a105n 

during mechanical test the impact test for FLANGE FAILLURE IN HAZ  IN 3 POINT £

IS IT ACCEPTABLE 

J Prinsen

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Oct 7, 2021, 5:32:25 AM10/7/21
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No it is not,

Something went wrong with the thermal cycle during welding, heat-input/interpass to high will break down the impact thoughness

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Jurgen Prinsen IWE
Metallurgist and welding engineer



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Prakash Hegde

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Oct 7, 2021, 7:34:16 AM10/7/21
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Hi
In addition some time there is possiblity of improper.Heat treatment received to Forging and casting causing non uniformity of.req.grain structure for total cross section Causing failure in Impact test
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Ahmed Rashed

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Oct 7, 2021, 11:14:44 PM10/7/21
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Dears, 

I made PQR material A333 GR.6 (6" STD) welded by GTAW for Root pass (ER70S-6) and SMAW (E7018-1) for filling and cap according to ASME IX , B31.3.
Tensile test and bend test passed.
Impact test failed (for weld metal Av. 12 J) and for (HAZ Av. 8 J) at -55.6 degree celsius.

I don't know why the impact test failed !!!!! 

james gerald

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Oct 7, 2021, 11:44:45 PM10/7/21
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A333 Gr.6 is permitted by ASME B31.3 to be used at minimum temperature of -46degC. See snap shot below.

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Moreover please look below for the limits of  welding consumable.

E7018 can be used only upto -45degC. See snapshot below.

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For lower temperatures please go for Nickel based steel consumables. see snap shot below.

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If your case is a subsize specimen with temperature reductions, then review your welding conditions carefully.





Thanks & Regards

J.Gerald Jayakumar



Perumal Govindan

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Oct 8, 2021, 12:26:41 AM10/8/21
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Hi

Please let me know the following:
1. Min and max UTS of the actual project material ( refer all the batches / heat numbers of MTCs) was manufactured and hope the same material was used to run the PQR/PQT.
2. What is the application of the material and the MDMT.

Above information is required for the welding consumables selection.

ER70S-6 is having high carbon compared to ER70S-2. So ER70S-6 is not preferrable for ASTM A333 Gr. 6 root runs.

Also, E7018-1 can be used until 70KSI of your project material UTS, if the actual UTS exceeds, we have to choose other electrode. 

Regards
Perumal Govindan 




james gerald

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Oct 8, 2021, 1:39:41 AM10/8/21
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Just to add if you are using a subsize specimen then below snapshot values are Applicable.

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Thanks & Regards

J.Gerald Jayakumar


Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Oct 8, 2021, 2:45:13 AM10/8/21
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7018-1 is not for more than -45 deg celsius 

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Ramon Briceno

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Oct 9, 2021, 12:36:37 AM10/9/21
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Dear Ahmed,

Please use E-8018-C1, it contains Ni 2.5% which is good to better thougness until -60C.

 E-7018-1 is limited -45C. It contains high Mn (1.6 %) only. Enough to get good thougnees until -45C.

Regards, 
Ramon Briceno
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Asunto: Re: [MW:32552] IMPACT TEST FAILLURE

Mohd Siraj

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Feb 9, 2022, 2:54:36 AM2/9/22
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check flange Mn %..if less than 1 ,there is strong chance of failure.. procure flange wit more than 1.05% Mn.

Vishwas Keskar

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Feb 9, 2022, 3:37:27 AM2/9/22
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THK 7.11 mm 
Following information is required 
At what temperature Impact was carried out?
What is the impact sample size when tested ?

Mohd Siraj

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Feb 14, 2022, 12:15:09 AM2/14/22
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impact test shall be minimum design temp or mentioned in spec.
for size and 10x10x55 if not possible , you can use reduece size , in your case 5.5 is possible so need to consider reduce temperature...this all thing lab will take care!..

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