Distance between two L-Seam

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Gurunath.Hanamar

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Jun 13, 2012, 11:24:41 PM6/13/12
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Dear all,
I know that 100mm is permissble distance between two consecutive longitudinal seams but, can any one confirm minimum distance between two longitudinal seams should be mantained. Kindly mention ASME clause.

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Gurunath Hanamar

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Section VIII-1 UW(9)(d): except when the longitudinal joints are radiographed 100 mm each side of each circumferential welded intersection, vessels made up of two or more courses shall have the centers of the welded longitudinal joints of adjacent courses staggered or separated by a distance of at least five times the thickness of the thicker plate


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suresh kumar

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Jun 14, 2012, 3:22:14 AM6/14/12
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Dear guru,

I am also asked this question to all of our friends, still no body can answer for this ...because as per ASME there is no answer available, but in my project specification(SGD- ABUDHABI) 150 mm is allowed..

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Saravanan Sornam

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Jun 14, 2012, 3:56:49 AM6/14/12
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Hi Guru,
 
You can find in ASME VIII Div. I, UW-9 (d).
 
(d) Except when the longitudinal joints are radiographed
4 in. (100 mm) each side of each circumferential welded

intersection, vessels made up of two or more courses shall
have the centers of the welded longitudinal joints of adjacent
courses staggered or separated by a distance of at
least five times the thickness of the thicker plate.
 
Hope it is Ok for U...
 
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Gurunath.Hanamar

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Mar 28, 2013, 7:17:35 AM3/28/13
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Dear Mr. Himanshu,

As per B 31.3 seam to seam minimum distance is given as 4 times thickness but B 31.3  haven't mentioned L seam to L seam staggering. Means can be weld without staggering.

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Gurunath Hanamar


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Hello To ALL,
 
This clause applicable to Pressure Vessel, What about PIPING can any one suggest for piping as per (API 1104, B31.4, B31.3 or B31.1).
 
Thanks.

 
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Nandesh Kumar

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Mar 28, 2013, 5:11:04 PM3/28/13
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Such stuff are referenced in corresponding project specifications, as these can not be generalised.

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Ritixa Tandel

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Mar 21, 2016, 6:27:29 AM3/21/16
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HELLO,

I AM STUDYING & REFERRING ABOUT DESIGN OF EQUIPMENT. 

CONTINUE TO YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT ''DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO L-SEAM''........

WHAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM DISTANCE IF MY REACTOR IS LIKE THIS:

--SS 316 L REACTOR (3 KL WORKING CAPACITY)
--SHELL: 1500 MM ID x 1700 MM LG x 8 MM THK
--REACTOR WITH DOUBLE LIMPET COIL.

REGARDS RITIXA.
ANKLESHWAR, GUJARAT. INDIA.

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Apr 1, 2016, 12:46:50 AM4/1/16
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ASME Code has a restrictions for staggering. You may use this one

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Kannayeram Gnanapandithan

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Apr 1, 2016, 2:03:02 AM4/1/16
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check in sec 8, think 5Xthick mm 

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Krunal Gajjar

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Apr 18, 2018, 8:11:10 AM4/18/18
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WHY DISTANCE REQUIRED??

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udaya bhaskar

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Apr 19, 2018, 12:04:57 AM4/19/18
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My dear, distance between two L seams for pressure vessels minimum 250- 300mm.

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HELLO,

I AM STUDYING & REFERRING ABOUT DESIGN OF EQUIPMENT. 

CONTINUE TO YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT ''DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO L-SEAM''........

WHAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM DISTANCE IF MY REACTOR IS LIKE THIS:

--SS 316 L REACTOR (3 KL WORKING CAPACITY)
--SHELL: 1500 MM ID x 1700 MM LG x 8 MM THK
--REACTOR WITH DOUBLE LIMPET COIL.

REGARDS RITIXA.
ANKLESHWAR, GUJARAT. INDIA.

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Rajesh Kasvala

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Apr 19, 2018, 12:11:01 AM4/19/18
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Pl refer uw9 D



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tugrulhan özdemir

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Apr 20, 2018, 6:00:16 AM4/20/18
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Storage tanks has limitation like below in API 650:

 "Vertical  joints  in  adjacent  shell  courses  shall  not  be  aligned,  but  shall  be  offset  from  each  other  a  minimum
distance of 5t, where t is the plate thickness of the thicker course at the point of offset. "     

which is not applicable in real since results flat spots.



Also

EN 13445-4:2009

6.2 Vessels or parts made of more than one course

Where a vessel or vessel part is made of two or more courses the longitudinal weld joints of adjacent courses shall be staggered by 4 e with 10 mm minimum, or 30 mm minimum when the vessel or vessel part is either working in the creep range or designed by Design by Analysis – Direct Route (Annex B of EN 13445-3:2009) or designed using 6.3 of EN 13445-3:2009.




2018-04-19 7:10 GMT+03:00 'Rajesh Kasvala' via Materials & Welding <material...@googlegroups.com>:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 9:34 AM, udaya bhaskar
My dear, distance between two L seams for pressure vessels minimum 250- 300mm.

On Mon 21 Mar, 2016, 15:57 Ritixa Tandel, <ritixat...@gmail.com> wrote:
HELLO,

I AM STUDYING & REFERRING ABOUT DESIGN OF EQUIPMENT. 

CONTINUE TO YOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT ''DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO L-SEAM''........

WHAT SHOULD BE THE MINIMUM DISTANCE IF MY REACTOR IS LIKE THIS:

--SS 316 L REACTOR (3 KL WORKING CAPACITY)
--SHELL: 1500 MM ID x 1700 MM LG x 8 MM THK
--REACTOR WITH DOUBLE LIMPET COIL.

REGARDS RITIXA.
ANKLESHWAR, GUJARAT. INDIA.

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Dindo

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Apr 20, 2018, 10:31:36 PM4/20/18
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ASME Sect VIII Div 1 2017 Ed.: UW-9(d)

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Souravbohray

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When the vessel is 100% RT than long seam can be at same line ? 100 radiographed on each c seam is consider when RT for vessel is spot? So it's mean when spot RT is there in vessel than only we have to maintain 5 T criteria for long seam setup.because ASME code use word "EXCEPT "- means remains the other.
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