cupx files repository?

[Mana Coste]

Hi fellow LXNav owners. I just purchased my first glider and it is equipped with an LX9070. I'm going through the process of learning about it and I'm now wondering about the best way to add pictures of fields and airports. 

Are there any cupx files available already built with pictures of airports and outlanding fields per region, specifically the Southern Alps? 

Or does one always have to build them e.g. using http://www.sjhaley.com/cupx/createcupx.htm ?

Mana

[Mana Coste]

In particular I'd love to find this type of informative picture: 

[Jim Staniforth]

It's very easy to create CUPX files with Stephen Haley's software.

Attached is a screenshot of the settings I use, with an example airport. The settings have worked well with everything from Oudie to LX9070.

When you get a Google API, copy and paste it. Check that there are no spaces before or after the API.

Jim

[lonkelly]

The question is a good one: "Are there cupx files already built... per region?" The subject line asks about a repository for such files, which is a good idea.

It takes a good deal of effort to pull together images, annotate them to the standard of a typical club landout book, and then add them to a cupx file. It's a significant amount of work for each landout location, assuming you want more than the automated retrieval of a vertical sat image via the Google Earth API.

It does seem like it would be worthwhile to avoid having everyone who would like the most helpful CUPX file for their flying do this individually. We have consolidated CUP files for many areas so why not CUPX? Perhaps the same loose infrastructure that maintains area CUP files could take this on? Maybe it's already happening?

[Bruno Ramseyer]

The asapt program from LX Nav has the following pop up window when you close down the program

it looks like they are collecting these databases and may be they will publish them

same as they do with the LX Styler profiles people are submitting.

Bruno

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[Jim Staniforth]

Some may want all waypoints to have images, some like me just landable ones.

CUPX files can be about 200 times the size of a CUP file. A comparison of equivalent 1100-waypoint files in DAT, CUP. STX, KML and CUPX attached.

We've come a long way since the 1990s DAT file! Evident by over 600x file size.

Jim

[lonkelly]

Do you know how to see the results of an edited asapt file in LXSIM? If I select Setup->Files and Transfer->Update Databases in LXSIM I get a brief message saying, "Please contact LXNAV for instructions how to enable this feature in LXSIM".

On Friday, December 25, 2020 at 10:44:27 AM UTC-8 ramsey...@gmail.com wrote:

[Mana Coste]

Thank you all. Indeed my question was more about a repository rather than how to build a cupx - I guess I will have to build mine myself and I'll share it in this group once I'm done :-) 

I wonder how many of us are subscribed to this google group, I assume most would be interested in a repository of cupx files. Are there geeks who have ideas of how to create an online repository that is secure and easy to manage? I will ask lxnav if they could do it, it doesn't hurt to ask!

[mana....@gmail.com]

Replying to myself: as @lonkelly suggests, best would be to add to existing cup file repositories such as https://soaringweb.org/TP/ 

I just contacted the maintainer of the site and asked for his thoughts.  

[Joerg Kummer]

https://landout.streckenflug.at/ is such a repository!

[Bruno Ramseyer]

Paul Ruskin a UK Glider Pilot maintains a Uk and Alps Database including .cupx files at

the following address

https://www.ruskin.me.uk/gliding-data

Gliding Matters - Gliding Data - ruskin.me.uk This is a set of files which provides radio frequencies for UK airfields, and a list of landouts - strips, disused airfields and so on. The list is designed to be complementary to the BGA Turning Point list which also contains radio frequencies for the airfields included in it. www.ruskin.me.uk

If you register you will get regular updated from him

Regards

Muttley

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[Paul Ruskin]

>Paul Ruskin a UK Glider Pilot maintains a Uk and Alps Database including .cupx files

Almost true.  I do maintain those databases, and I have in the past put in cupx files, rather than just cup files.  These have been examples though, since you really need to build them for the size of the display you're using.

Unfortunately the person who built the Cupx Creator programme stopped supporting it when Naviter silently changed the cup format, so I'm not currently including any cupx files in the distribution.  [For those interested, Naviter added a field - runway width.  For those programs which correctly interpreted the first line of the cup file, that was manageable - but those who relied on the previous format had more problems.]

Paul

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[Bruno Ramseyer]

Sorry Paul I was not aware that Naviter had made changes to the .cup files and just went on past 

experiences with your Database which I found to be excellent. Just tried to be helpful

Regards and happy New Year

Bruno

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[Paul Ruskin]

Not a problem - just thought I'd clarify the situation.

But if anyone else has a simple way of creating cupx files, then I can point people at that, so they can create one for the format they want.  (There are about 850 people signed up to the UK distribution at the moment, so there's quite good coverage).

Paul

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[Joerg Kummer]

Naviter recently published the cupx details: https://downloads.naviter.com/docs/SeeYou_CUPX_file_format.pdf

This seems relatively easy to generate (not so certain how easy it is to read this format, though).

BR

Joerg

[Jim Staniforth]

Stephen Haley has evidently repaired his roof and addressed the problem from when Naviter added "runway width" to the .CUP file format.

Last week I generated a 1031 point file with satellite images for all landable waypoints. There were no errors. When this first became a problem there would be many errors reported.

The 480 x 508 images - screenshot in a Dec 25 2020 post - work fine in LX9000, 9050, 9070 and Naviter Oudie. Minden, as in the screenshot, is currently displayed on an Oudie 2.

A good reminder that I need to send Stephen some beer money.

Jim