Hi all
Is there any way to get Lucee Express with Jetty?
The current express version with tomcat is not possible in the current way we organize our development. We need at the moment the express jetty. No Jetty no Lucee… sorry.
Bye
Clemens
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Hi Micha,
fantastic job. I downloaded the jetty express version, make same configuration changes for our environment and VIOLA!
First application runs with Lucee. YEAH!
I’m sure that all apps will run, but they haven’t all the cfadminsetup.cfm to install the datasources etc. So I need some time to remember he passwords ;-)
I really hope you will further support the jetty express version in your download program.
Bye
Cleemns
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As much as your help in this case is most likely really appreciated, by Clemens but isn’t providing those builds just opening up the whole which-server-are-you-running-on-support-can-of-worms again?
I disagree, you automatically create an expectation of whatever the Lucee Foundation offering for download being in whatever way supported.
I disagree, you automatically create an expectation of whatever the Lucee Foundation offering for download being in whatever way supported.I guess it depends on what you mean by "support".
I disagree, you automatically create an expectation of whatever the Lucee Foundation offering for download being in whatever way supported.I guess it depends on what you mean by "support".Apart from commercial support, quite easy:If Lucee.org provides bundled builds and/or installers with a variety of servlet engines, people will consider those as supported, e.g. tested on (not only unit tests, but the whole thing - functional testing, integration testing etc)
Someone downloads a build from Lucee.org on Servlet Engine XYZ WILL come back to this mailing list (and rightfully so imho) expect some useful feedback/community support in getting his stuff going. If members of the Lucee foundation and this community are happy to do so, that’s fine. If such a community support however is then not supported people will get annoyed and pissed off and just say “That sh*t Lucee server THEY provide doesn’t even work properly”. And if you go over the old Railo mailing list you’ll see cases in which similar things happened (not to the extent of swearing), but people expecting support for a Railo-provided Jetty or Resin or whatever build where in reality most users on the list used Tomcat and wouldn’t have a) a clue or b) any interest in any other engine.
With a small community like this, I’d strongly recommend to provide the following only:- Source Code with Build instructions- .jar and .war builds for people to deploy on their own (and IF someone from a 3rd party writes up an instruction on who to do that on Jetty, IBM WebSphere or whatever, even better)- Express Builds on ONE Engine (preferably Tomcat imho)- Installers with ONE Engine (the same as in the Express Builds)
I disagree, you automatically create an expectation of whatever the Lucee Foundation offering for download being in whatever way supported.
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Actually, the cost of those unhappy customers is unknowable. They damage they cause by actively detracting from the product spreads as others relay the message. A few bad experiences might add up to well over 30 potential customers who never end up trying the product.
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Yep, if I can just "fig up" and get a working server, I'm happy.
Actually, the cost of those unhappy customers is unknowable. They damage they cause by actively detracting from the product spreads as others relay the message. A few bad experiences might add up to well over 30 potential customers who never end up trying the product.
On Friday, 6 February 2015 23:54:42 UTC, Kai Koenig wrote:I disagree, you automatically create an expectation of whatever the Lucee Foundation offering for download being in whatever way supported.I'm with Kai on this. Lucee should only offer direct downloads for what they themselves actively want to support. And perhaps provide a separate place for community-driven initiatives, making it clear that those are community-driven initiatives.
Actually, the cost of those unhappy customers is unknowable. They damage they cause by actively detracting from the product spreads as others relay the message. A few bad experiences might add up to well over 30 potential customers who never end up trying the product.
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Heroku, docker, and all the other platforms are much more important that quibbling over the servlet container.
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