Loxone and Google Assistant integration

[Gert Stalpaert]

I know that Loxone now has an integration with Siri, but I have quite some Google Assistant devices, and I want to replace them with Siri ;-)

So my questions are:

1. Will Loxone integrate with Google Assistant any time soon? 
2. What are the options to integrate it using third party solutions?
   1. what solution does work well? Good/bad Experiences?
   2. I'm already using Loxbery. Does it have solid solutions?

Thanks!

Gert

[Matt Nye]

There is 1Home. I have no personal experience with it and it seems $$ but it is A solution.

https://www.1home.io/how-it-works/google-loxone/

[Rob_in]

On Sunday, 29 May 2022 at 20:59:41 UTC+2 ger...@gmail.com wrote:

1. Will Loxone integrate with Google Assistant any time soon? 

Who knows. Guess it's a possibility, but as Apple integration requires a Gen 2 Miniserver imagine Google Home integration would too, which is not great.

1. What are the options to integrate it using third party solutions?

I built a Google Home fulfilment server for ioBroker:

https://github.com/raintonr/ioBroker.google-smart-home-fulfillment

It's free and it works, but is technically a 'test' integration and occasionally needs re-connecting in the Google Home app. Allegedly Google will support private apps sooner or later so this could become more robust.

IoB also has a subscription based cloud service if you prefer that route:

https://github.com/ioBroker/ioBroker.iot

Naturally both of these require ioBroker (runs perfectly on an RPi).

From what I can tell Home Assistant has similar functionality to my self hosted fulfillment server (so also uses 'test' stuff in Google Home) if you prefer that:

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/google_assistant/

HTH,

Robin

[Gert Stalpaert]

Yeah, I know about 1Home, but like you said: not cheap and they tend to kill their cheaper solutions one by one... :(

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[Gert Stalpaert]

As soon as I have some free time I will have a look at your Google Home fulfillment server for ioBroker!

Being all written in JS will help a lot, as I'm a JS developer myself.

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[Rob_in]

On Monday, 30 May 2022 at 08:50:24 UTC+2 ger...@gmail.com wrote:

As soon as I have some free time I will have a look at your Google Home fulfillment server for ioBroker!

Being all written in JS will help a lot, as I'm a JS developer myself.

Excellent. I mashed it together pretty quickly so could do with some polish. PRs gratefully received ;)

[Jonathan Dixon]

Thanks for sharing this project Rob, looks like it's not been updated much in two years so that suggests it's been pretty stable for you?

Have to admit last time I tried iobroker I got completely put off by the onboarding process, so I went back to Home Assistant, but conceptually iobroker does make much more sense for the lower level device connectivity I mostly use HA Loxone integration for.

I too will plan to try this again:-)

Regarding future of this being built into miniserver v2, I'm generally not a fan of Loxone having cloud connectors built in but I can see with the plethora of not quite satisfactory competing alternatives I can see why it makes most sense for Loxone to pull this in under their own control.

One option I'm considering is keeping the ms v1 for most duties and getting a v2 along side it purely for cloud connectors. It doesn't cost that much more than the 1home and probably gives more flexibility over time. I'll leave that until there's some very compelling cloud function. Google Assistant _might_ sway me on that.

Cheers 

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[Rob_in]

On Monday, 30 May 2022 at 11:09:35 UTC+2 Joth wrote:

Thanks for sharing this project Rob, looks like it's not been updated much in two years so that suggests it's been pretty stable for you?

No worries. Yeah - on the whole it seems pretty good. Google Home does sometimes drop the association and needs to be re-connected but that only takes a few seconds. I haven't figured out what makes that happen, but it's so infrequent I don't really mind.

Cheers,

Robin

[Javier Herraez]

I use Openhab (hosted in Raspberry) to integrate Google Home and Loxone (gen 1). I set up this approach some years ago and it works like a charm. 

It is pretty easy to set up, just using metadata in the openhab items/channels with the relevant google home category.

I wrote this article (sorry, in Spanish) some time ago, and even if the openhab integration is slightly different from that time (tags have evolved to metadata) it can provide an overview.

https://www.domoprac.com/item/756-instalacion-loxone-con-loxberry-openhab-y-control-de-voz-iii.html

I have some google homes mini spread all over the house and the integration is smart enough to discriminate room for voice commands (for example open the curtains vs open all the curtains, or having lights with the same name in different rooms)

Hope this helps

Javier

[Rob_in]

On Tuesday, 31 May 2022 at 10:21:38 UTC+2 Javier Herraez wrote:

I use Openhab (hosted in Raspberry) to integrate Google Home and Loxone (gen 1). I set up this approach some years ago and it works like a charm. 

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https://www.domoprac.com/item/756-instalacion-loxone-con-loxberry-openhab-y-control-de-voz-iii.html

This looks promising, thanks for sharing. 

*Although I won't try it myself as am pretty happy how things are working here.

[Sungray]

Hey Rob, I just implemented your adapter - and it works absolutely perfect for my needs.

Only two issues:

- The Garage / Gate objects are not showing up?

- Required to use "Bright" scene, cannot rename it (not a big issue)

Thanks A LOT for this. If you find the time I'd love to see the garage/gate implemented!

[Rob_in]

On Wednesday, 1 June 2022 at 11:48:04 UTC+2 Sungray wrote:

Hey Rob, I just implemented your adapter - and it works absolutely perfect for my needs.

Excellent! Glad to hear the instructions work.

 

- The Garage / Gate objects are not showing up?

I did this for security reasons as don't really trust cloud services. But if you raise an issue...

https://github.com/raintonr/ioBroker.google-smart-home-fulfillment/issues

... I'll try and add it.

We could still actually exclude these in our installation by ignoring controls in our 'Garage' and 'Outside' rooms so not a drama I guess.

 

- Required to use "Bright" scene, cannot rename it (not a big issue)

Have assumed everyone has a 'Bright' scene - what would you rather see? Again, please raise an issue and will see what I can do.

Cheers,

Robin

[Sungray]

The "Bright" scene is acceptable honestly, I simply had translated bright into my language. But I don't see a good solution so using Bright is fine. I'll open an issue, thank you :).

[Tomasz Nowak]

I use HOOBS running in Docker on my Loxberry. Works fine with GH and Alexa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuYyyN4Hda8