What do you use LoopBack for?

[Raymond Feng]

Hi,

As a developer for the LoopBack project, I would love to hear from you on what you plan to use LoopBack for your project. This way, we can better prioritize the features on the roadmap to help you out.

There are a few things I can imagine:

1. Use LoopBack to build and expose REST APIs (scaffolding the APIs and corresponding data models)

2. Use LoopBack as the mobile backend (using the built-in mobile related models, mobile SDKs, and REST APIs)

3. Use LoopBack to integrate with existing backend systems using Node.js because LoopBack provides connectors to access Oracle, MySQL, MongoDB, and REST APIs

Feel free to add your use cases.

Thanks in advance for taking the poll,

Raymond

[Simon]

I am using LoopBack as the backend to a mixed mobiles / web front end. The mobile and web front ends have different functions but require access to the same data. 

Loopback will provide the REST API to the data, but also enforce the "Business Rules" - in fact I intend to do a lot of the work in the backend - the front end just acting as a UI onto this. It would also need to provide certain services like Push notifications to mobile, social network integration, as well as protecting data based on roles (Authentication / Access Control).

Mobile platform will be iOS / Android. Although the SDK's are useful I would almost be happier to use the REST API raw to keep it more generic - To give you some context I started out using Kinvey - They recently rocketed their first tier fee's and this made it totally unviable for a startup. The work using their iOS SDK is now effectively junk - hence wanting to keep generic REST.

Hope this helps.

Keep up the good work - I'm very hopeful for this !

[Lee Driscoll]

Hi Raymond, I hope this is still relevant (I notice this poll is 2 months old).

We're looking to use Loopback as a combination of the 3 things you've mentioned.

For our case it will provide provisioning for clients using OAuth2 and supply them with protected resources. These clients are going to be applications and devices.

Some of the API's will be connected to redis (temporary data such as access tokens), and others to mongodb (persistent app data). 

The core of the application will be the data on a remote server accessible over a REST API, the loopback server will act as a proxy in this case and include capabilities for the syncing and caching of that remote data.

The Loopback front end will be a user accessible admin panel for registering devices and gaining permission to access protected resources.

A priority for us would be a generic node client (without AngularJS) as that serves multiple of our needs at once: real-time apps, mobile apps (we use Titanium, so the existing client SDK's are out of the question unless they (Appcelerator) start allowing compiling device SDK modules) 

I agree with Simon on keeping things more generic. Coupling a framework with opinionated technologies can be a barrier to entry for many.

[Raymond Feng]

Thank you for sharing your use cases. Your input is definitely valuable for LoopBack.

Raymond

[Pandaiolo]

Hi,

I sent back some mongodb-related feedback recently, so I guess I could say a bit more about why I use loopback

I am currently developing a "marketplace" web e-commerce platform based on loopback, on the server, and Backbone on the frontend.

I started some time ago doing a lot of work on the client side, and developing a small PHP/mysql API for the backend purpose.

Then, I got into some issues and a lot of workarounds because I stored JSON object into mysql fields, and also because I could ne easily use shared methods for the model (client + server)

NodeJS, with its full javascript stack seemed to be perfect, so I looked at several "Backend-as-a-service" kind of solutions, and stumbled upon deployd, and strongloop, seeing that the development effort had apparently moved to loopback, deployd not getting much commits.

I also like the fact that loopback will enable future possibilities like applications API.

My next question, will be to request a blog post / tutorial : "How to hook up third-party authentication like Facebook or Twitter into loopback authentication mechanism ?" (using passport plugins?)

Today mosy new webapp / mobile apps implementations let the users login using Facebook or other oauth providers, so I think a good tutorial about this feature would bring additional traction to loopback !! ;-)

Thanks, and back to work on my loopback project !

Aurelien

[Raymond Feng]

Hi, Aurelien.

Thank you for sharing your use cases with the LoopBack community.

Your feedback is very valuable to us. We'll keep you posted for the progress.

Raymond

[Muhammad Baja Aksha]

I'm using it to expose REST API with an existing MySQL Database. The front-end is an Android application. I haven't tried the new LoopBack since everything works fine with the previous release and still looking for a documentation on how to upgrade to the current version. 

Just like Aurelien, found LoopBack after using Deployd for a while back then. 

Thanks for the great product. Looking forward to see more feature, especially the Web-based Editor (just like the one in Deployd)

--- Baja

[Aurelien]

+1 for the web-based editor / browser / admin !

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[Raymond Feng]

Thank you all for sharing your use cases and providing feedback to make LoopBack better.

The editor UI is on our near-term roadmap. A quick poll:

What IDEs do you use for Node.js or Front-end development?

* Sublime2

* Vi

* WebStorm

* Eclipse

* Visual Studio

* Xamarin

* Others

What’s your preference to LoopBack editors and admin console?

* Web/Browser-based

* Integration with IDEs listed above

Thanks,

Raymond Feng

Co-Founder and Architect @ StrongLoop, Inc.

StrongLoop makes it easy to develop APIs in Node.js and gain valuable insights into your apps. Getting started is easy via an npm install.

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[Aurelien]

Editor : Sublime2, and I just stumbled upon the upcoming ATOM editor from github, seems promising

Workflow : grunt + npm + bower for client-side deps

Preference for LB editor/admin : web tool

I think the challenge is to be able to display/edit : schema, data, and ACL in a convenient way (I don't have any idea / opinion on how to do that :) )

[Muhammad Baja Aksha]

Hi Raymond,

I'm currently using Eclipse for the front-end development and the open source code editor Brackets (http://brackets.io) for Node.js (i.e. LoopBackJS). I was using Sublime2 before, but Brackets and its plugins are quite promising. 

I personally prefer a web based editor or any other editor, maybe with built-in "slc" commands plugin where I can start/stop the LoopBack service. 

In my case, there were always 3 windows open, the IDE (for front end), Brackets (LoopBackJS), and a shell terminal for LoopBack service. 

--- Baja

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[Lee Driscoll]

Hi Raymond,

For our development, we use WebStorm due to it's integration with Node, NPM & Git (+ being an awesome code editor). We use Grunt tasks bound to key-mappings in WebStorm to perform builds/deployments. Also, AndroidStudio is a fork of the same base as WebStorm - IntelliJ IDEA.

In terms of the Loopback UI, having IDE integration would be our preferred as it allows us to integrate it into our existing workflows relating to VCS, build, CI etc.

In my opinion, if going the web UI route then flexible VCS/CI integration is a must.

Regards,

Lee

[Eric Ponce]

Hello Raymond!!

We want to use LoopBack as a BaaS like Parse.

We are developing mobile native apps in iOS and Android.

We hope that the SDK's improve to be a very good platform.

Keep working, thanks for your work :)

[Albert Chang]

I am intending on using LoopBack for all the intended features at the moment:
1) as the entire backend while serving all data RESTfully
2) to support both mobile and web apps
3) push notifications and real-time, 2-way communications between UI and MySQL DB
4) security (app and user authorization, and context-specific authentication, e.g. simple role-based access like business owner vs. a business employee)
5) session management

The project with which I want to use LoopBack for is to support key operational workflows between vendors and customers in a service-based market, e.g. dry cleaning service for regular consumers and businesses. So i'm trying to incorporate real-time, 2-way communication that will automagically show new requests that come in for dry-cleaning providers, and real-time updates to the consumers for stuff like status updates.

Like Muhammad and Pandaiolo, I also see a huge benefit (and immense opportunity for the Strongloop team) of having tutorials created for the key features that Loopback provides. AngularJS is a great example where there are excellent tutorials hosted on Youtube that walk through many of the fundamentals for the key selling points of the technology. Here is an example by David Mosher tutorial: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ILQOFAgaXE&list=UU8TXEl4mrSZ4BVOkOJdhXQA. John Linquist is another great "teacher" for Angular JS.

I just want to end on this note: (although it's much easier said than done) I honestly believe that having these step-by-step video tutorials on how to implement these key features (e.g. connecting a MySQL DB to the Loopback App, setting up and walking through the steps of hooking up and using the AngularJS API methods, setting up & configuring permissions for roles and principles and demonstrating how the UI will work given the configuration of these settings, etc. etc. etc.) will catapult this product into major popularity. The Meetups that are hosted at Hacker Dojo are great in and of themselves, but in order accelerate the level of adoptability by your prospective company's customers, these kind of videos are a must. Additionally, it's much easier to manage and encapsulate the questions and comments of your customers for each tutorial that is created. The 4 to 5 EXCELLENT videos i've seen on learning Angular offered for free are incredibly priceless, and are WAY more effective than having example apps. Totally accelerates the learning for the fundamentals beyond anything I can imagine.

I am a Teaching Assistant at a coding bootcamp in Mountain View, and with the current set of students that are learning to build applications, I have been touting my involvement with Angular JS and StrongLoop; however, in all honesty, it's been much easier for me to advocate the ease of learning Angular given the ubiquity of quality video tutorials on Youtube vs. the long road I have been taking on trying to figure things out through reading the sample codebases on Github and the current documentation on http://www.strongloop.com. And Angular isn't necessarily easy in that the framework has a ton of stuff that has to be learned. It's another world, just like Loopback is. I still praise StrongLoop in front of the students =).

[Raymond Feng]

Hi, Albert.

Thank you very much for sharing the information in great details. Your feedbacks are very valuable!

We’ll look for ways to improve the developer experience. It’s definitely one of the most important objectives for LoopBack.

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[Felipe Figueroa]

I use LoopBack on two apps

1.- As a lightweight API to access PostgreSQL and MongoDB models. The main app uses PHP with Doctrine as an ORM, but I'm deploying a parallel set of endpoints to use with headless browsers or even CURL requests. The main challenge here has been to integrate my existing user model (which has bcrypt + salt passwords) with Loopback token generation, and I'm yet to discover how to operate on model results before displaying the data (basically, translating binary geometries to Well Known Text). 

2.- As the full backend for a mobile webapp. I started using ionic + angular sdk + loopback, but I'm not really comfortable with angular, so I switched to backbone. The datasource here connects to MySQL. It has been a pleasant surprise that loopback's discovery for MySQL is much richer than postgres's.

[Charles Naccio]

We're using LoopBack for an ERP/CRM application.

[Alex Galloway]

I use it as a connector between node.js, MySQL database and an Angular web application.

I like it because of the easy model generation from the existing database and REST API, and it could eventually work well with a mobile app frontend.

On Monday, December 16, 2013 3:48:35 PM UTC-6, Raymond Feng wrote:

[Al Tsang]

awesome input and also validation on what we've prioritized thus far with so few resources,  folks, please keep it coming!

[David Karigithu]

Hello Charles,

How did you go about implementing transactions for the ERP/CRM?

[Chandler Chatter]

Using LoopbackJS to convert Web Services from backend applications such as Siebel ro REST API for consumption in Web Apps.

On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:01:18 AM UTC-7, Raymond Feng wrote:

Thank you all for sharing your use cases and providing feedback to make LoopBack better.

The editor UI is on our near-term roadmap. A quick poll:

What IDEs do you use for Node.js or Front-end development?

* Sublime2

What’s your preference to LoopBack editors and admin console?

[Dennis Ahaus]

Hi, i am just testing loopback for rest api. But i plan to use it for an open source rest based high performance archive application

[Mike Hedman]

Hi,

I'm using LoopBack for two projects.  One is for providing a REST API for a single page app.  The second is also for REST, but we will also be looking to use the offline/sync capability of using LoopBack on the client (in a Phonegap app).

Mike

[Balamurali Pandranki]

Hi,

I am currently building location based Android app (http://hereapp.in) using Loopback as backend.

Kudos to Awesome guys @ StrongLoop for the effort. 

[Al Tsang]

Albert - sorry it took a while, we had a major release from the time you posted this to 2.0 and then a bunch of catch-up along with a revision of our getting started guides.  We didn't forget your valuable feedback nor everyone else's along these lines.

Simon is close to having the app example you described and requested below.  It ties in all the basic concepts of LoopBack all into one app to illustrate what you have below.  And yes - to tie all together with an Angular app using our CLI tool, which save a lot of time generating services bound to Angular "models".

-a-

[Vista Graphics]

Has the app example now available ?

[Al Tsang]

The example is done - Rand is now adding it to documentation as  the Getting Started Guides - Intermediate.  Should be there very soon!

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[William Moore]

I am using it as a standard back-end data store for multiple front-end systems. Loopback gives me the ability to make cross platform and cross device applications without having to write custom backend access for each instance. I am also able to create it much faster and more stable, then if I did it from scratch on my own.

William Moore

Owner

Statira Systems

[Philippe Corrèges]

Hello,
Could you help me on How you manage users roles between parts of the ERP ?
An admin can access finance and not HR.

Thanks

[René Baron]

Hi Raymond,  

I have got a week for evaluating tools and processes to speed up our RAD process for mobile app prototyping. So, for the Backend, I came accross LoobBack and found it quite promising and will give it a try. 

So the best part I have found so far is DOCUMENTATION and code samples. It was so easy to get into the tool and to get productive. That is exactly what I have been looking for. 

I do not know how all this stuff will perform and behave on enterprise level - but we will find out and report back :-)

Good work, cool tool, masterclass !

Thanks for that

Greetings from Switzerland

René

[SJS]

Please help in resolving the below error.

XMLHttpRequest cannot load http://localhost:3002/api/TimeSheet_Scheduler_Trackings?. No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource. Origin 'http://localhost:7000' is therefore not allowed access. The response had HTTP status code 504.

[Leslie Chan]

Currently for REST API only. But I like Lookback very much and will use more in future project.

[Anand Mahajan]

Hi Raymond,

Would it be worth having a Location model built-in to Loopback? Many of the mobile apps require Location data and geocoding capabilities too.

Regards,

Anand

[Raymond Feng]

Have you checked out https://github.com/strongloop/loopback-datasource-juggler/blob/master/lib/geo.js?

Thanks,

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Co-Founder and Architect @ StrongLoop, Inc.

StrongLoop makes it easy to develop APIs in Node, plus get DevOps capabilities like monitoring, debugging and clustering.

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[Juan C. Ramos]

I use loopback mainly for the API scaffolding but I would like to use a loopback connector for socket.io

[Fadi Chalfoun]

I just recently was contracted to build out a prototype for an E-commerce platform within the healthcare medical device sales space. I am using LoopbackJS and AngularJS to create the end to end web application prototype and back-end APIs to be mobile-ready for when we go mobile. My hope is that once we break out of the prototype stage we won't have to throw away the entire thing and rebuild. I'm optimistic we can take the prototype to scale with minimal rework.

[Roman Storm]

Editor:

WebStorm/Sublime2

Preference: Web/Browser-based

Workflow:

Client: Webpack + Gulp+ NPM

Using as Rest api + Oauth2 + PostgreSQL

On Friday, February 28, 2014 at 9:01:18 AM UTC-8, Raymond Feng wrote:

Thank you all for sharing your use cases and providing feedback to make LoopBack better.

The editor UI is on our near-term roadmap. A quick poll:

What IDEs do you use for Node.js or Front-end development?

* Sublime2

* Vi

* WebStorm

* Eclipse

* Visual Studio

* Xamarin

* Others

What’s your preference to LoopBack editors and admin console?

* Web/Browser-based

* Integration with IDEs listed above

Thanks,

Raymond Feng

Co-Founder and Architect @ StrongLoop, Inc.

StrongLoop makes it easy to develop APIs in Node.js and gain valuable insights into your apps. Getting started is easy via an npm install.

On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Aurelien <aure...@arimaska.net> wrote:

+1 for the web-based editor / browser / admin !

2014-02-28 17:26 GMT+01:00 Muhammad Baja Aksha <mak...@gmail.com>:

I'm using it to expose REST API with an existing MySQL Database. The front-end is an Android application. I haven't tried the new LoopBack since everything works fine with the previous release and still looking for a documentation on how to upgrade to the current version. 

Just like Aurelien, found LoopBack after using Deployd for a while back then. 

Thanks for the great product. Looking forward to see more feature, especially the Web-based Editor (just like the one in Deployd)

--- Baja

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[Fadi Chalfoun]

What IDEs do you use for Node.js or Front-end development?

* Sublime2

* Vi

* WebStorm

* Eclipse

* Visual Studio

* Xamarin

* Others

WebStorm

 

What’s your preference to LoopBack editors and admin console?

* Web/Browser-based

* Integration with IDEs listed above

Integration with WebStorm would be cool but don't mind web/browser based either.

Side Note:

Is anyone else having issues with anchors using the API documentation? 

For example:

http://docs.strongloop.com/display/public/LB/LoopBack+types   ----> click on link to "dataSource.createModel()" which has URL http://apidocs.strongloop.com/loopback-datasource-juggler#datasourcecreatemodel

But when I go to API page it just loads at top of page and doesn't scroll to "#datasourcecreatemodel" section. I have to manually scroll to section looks like the section is actually #datasource-prototype-createmodel

[Davy Braun]

I'm using Loopback as the base for mixed mobile and web content.

First as the backend and frontend, but later on I plan to move the frontend to a different app to properly separate my layers.

Loopback is very, very cool. Thanks for your fantastic work guys.

[Kiran Sangita]

I'm using Loopback for the default scaffolding that it brings to build ReST api's.  I like the explorer and the swagger 2.0 configuration piece.  Later, I can expose my API to select developers who want to integrate with my system.

I also like the remote methods building capability and "afterRemote" and "beforeRemote" methods it provides a lot of flexibility to the developers.

One of the main reasons I like and am using loopback is to enforce autz with accessToken that comes built in.

However, I found that using the build in models is a little difficult especially when you extend the models. 

[Al Tsang]

Thanks for the feedback Kiran.  Agreed that building models when you extend on the base model can be somewhat confusing and unwieldly. One of the challenges I just ran into walking through our partner's code is being able to define relationships with the built in user but only being able to do so in the model-config.json.

I've discussed this with Raymond and we're contemplating enhancements that we hope we can get to in the near future.

-a-

[Nishant Gupta]

Hi Raymond,

Feeling exited to share my experience with loopback.

We are using loopback to serve the backend for ratings and reviews product of our company.

The features that we extensively used are :-

1. Default authentication of the User model.

2. We have thoroughly used ACL's on each and every API's which we have exposed from our system.

3. Extensive usage of remote web hooks.

At present we are serving more than 10 Million requests on weekly bases, As future plan we are looking forward to use the SLC arc and memory profiler too. 

Regards

Nishant

[mig...@thingtrack.com]

Hi everyone,

   In the first place we are using loopback only during that last two months and is a great framework for javascript to build business javascript fullstack scalable solutions. We are using loopback in our project called Tachoexplorer a SaaS solution to guard and manage the tachograph files of any vehicle. A Tachograph is a binary file created with any Truck or heavy vehicle that save all the traceability work of the vehicle and the driver that use it.

    1. We use MongoDB connector to save the data.

    2. Use Loopback to build and expose a secure REST API.

    3. Use Push to recover alarms a messages of new Tacho inserted.

    4. We use the SDK Angular because our front-end is in angularJS.

    5. We will use Strongloop Arc to deploy, profile, our Service in the cloud.

Regards.

[Lee Tom]

My choice  :

    3. Use LoopBack to integrate with existing backend systems using Node.js because LoopBack provides connectors to access Oracle, MySQL, MongoDB, and REST APIs

   

beacuse LoopBack help developers to develop rest api quickly , If Loopback help developers to develop js UI quickly , It will be perfect !

Thanks !

在 2013年12月17日星期二 UTC+8上午5:48:35，Raymond Feng写道：

[Ebrahim Pasbani]

I'm in case 2.

Backend API for clients including mobile and web

[John Brosan]

Hi,

We are using Loopback for our internal dashboard, as well as a mobile app for our people to use in the field. There is a lot of work to be done yet, but Loopback is certainly taking a LOT of the pain out of the process.

[tamilve...@gmail.com]

Hi Raymond,

We are using loppback for same purpose as with others. We have data in postgres. Frontend is an another application, which just serves the frontend resources(we made a few exception, though). But, in all the cases, data access is through loopback.

Except some limitations(ex: not being able to use multiple postgres databases with same code and different configuration), loopback made life easier in this projects. 

Thanks!

[熊浪]

Right now, I am using LoopBack as my data storage with the REST APIs. After crawling data from web sites, I insert the data with rest api. When it done, export the data as excel files with a custom remote method. It is just the beginning.

在 2013年12月17日星期二 UTC+8上午5:48:35，Raymond Feng写道：

Hi,

[Niyat patel]

Using LoopBack to integrate with existing backend systems using Node.js because LoopBack provides connectors to access Oracle, MySQL, MongoDB, and REST APIs

[Dong Mai]

I'm building a SAAS framework, that contains many modules can work individually such as subscription, account management, ACL ....

[Frank Chung]

It's a great framework when you have your already existing database and use lb to automatically generate common APIs for you.

But when you have a complex business logic and a rather complicated queries with multiple joins, it's not so impressive.

It's Node based and it means you have to do be comfortable with handling async functions and when you have them all interacting together it's gets all haywire and if not managed well, it would end up in a serious bottleneck

This is an issue with Node generally, not loopback and not really an issue because Node is, by design, lying under the concept of asynchronous processes.

I would choose loopback with applications (microservices) that don't have too much business logic 

[Eduardo souza]

Hi All,, fim studing LB for now,, but i pretend make my projects using Angular and LB

[Mihir Pandya]

I use it as a protocol transformation service proxy, to expose a rest wrapper on existing soap services. Its amazing how much can be scaffolded using command line tool and all the pre-baked support of libraries makes me go yay! 

[Uds214125]

Really Loopback.js is awesome framework. I used as Web and Mobile REST API. 

[koli...@gmail.com]

Using Loopback as a REST API backend for our mobile apps. With connectors to redis, postgresql and mysql, also connects to external APIs. 

Developing in Intellij Idea.

Fantastic framework! 

[Ashutosh Chamoli]

We are using Loopback 4 as a API layer for mobile app to authenticate requests and orchestrate data from multiple REST services and returning back to the app in a way that needs to be shown to user.

We are using Visual Studio Code.

We have written our own authentication module (since it was not there in loopback 4 when we started), logging module, module to fetch configurations based on different environments, and we are planning to release a series of blogs on loopback.

It was a smooth experience with many of the stuff. But we have struggled working with some of the integrations e.g. with aws services, and new-relic integration(which loopback 4 doesn't support).

Currently we are working on writing test cases and error handling.

Thanks.

 

Ashutosh Chamoli
Software Engineer
www.zestmoney.in

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[Eduardo souza]

Hi All, im using with Angular6 to performer advanced crud's operations, using this with JSONFORMS,, 

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[MP Modise]

Hi Raymond, I use WebStorm for Loopback 4

On Friday, February 28, 2014 at 7:01:18 PM UTC+2, Raymond Feng wrote:

Thank you all for sharing your use cases and providing feedback to make LoopBack better.

The editor UI is on our near-term roadmap. A quick poll:

What IDEs do you use for Node.js or Front-end development?

* Sublime2

* Vi

* WebStorm

* Eclipse

* Visual Studio

* Xamarin

* Others

What’s your preference to LoopBack editors and admin console?

* Web/Browser-based

* Integration with IDEs listed above

Thanks,

Raymond Feng

Co-Founder and Architect @ StrongLoop, Inc.

StrongLoop makes it easy to develop APIs in Node.js and gain valuable insights into your apps. Getting started is easy via an npm install.

On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:55 AM, Aurelien <aure...@arimaska.net> wrote:

+1 for the web-based editor / browser / admin !

2014-02-28 17:26 GMT+01:00 Muhammad Baja Aksha <mak...@gmail.com>:

I'm using it to expose REST API with an existing MySQL Database. The front-end is an Android application. I haven't tried the new LoopBack since everything works fine with the previous release and still looking for a documentation on how to upgrade to the current version. 

Just like Aurelien, found LoopBack after using Deployd for a while back then. 

Thanks for the great product. Looking forward to see more feature, especially the Web-based Editor (just like the one in Deployd)

--- Baja

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[MP Modise]

Hi Raymond,

1. Use LoopBack to build and expose REST APIs (scaffolding the APIs and corresponding data models)

[Shanmugapriya Xmedias]

hi,

how to join two more tables in loopback framework.pls anyone answer