soundcraft mixer compatibility

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Jean-Claude Provost

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Apr 16, 2021, 5:17:24 PM4/16/21
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Hi all,

 

I’m looking at 2 Soundcraft alternatives.  One is the Signature 22MTK, which somebody from this list recommended to me a few months ago.  The Soundcraft website talks about El Capitan as the supported OS…  Has anyone of you guys been able to use this with Logic & Big Sur?  This will not be my primary use but I’d like to know that I can do this if I need to.

 

The other alternative is a UI24R.  This one is a little eweirder because, when I click on the Software demo link I receive a message saying “your browser doesn’t support HTML-5 Canvas”.  Interrogating Google led me to believe this interface might be bitmap based, hence irrevocably inaccessible…  Is my conclusion accurate?

 

Any other alternatives with approx.. 20 analog line inputs with USB capabilities for all channels?  I wouldn’t mind if it contained a few S-PDIF’s either…  I’m open to suggestions.

 

Thanks,

 

Cheers,

 

Jean-Claude Provost

 

robert evans

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Apr 16, 2021, 5:26:04 PM4/16/21
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I have the sound craft 12 MTK and it works with logic 10.6.  I do not know how it works with big sir I currently am using Catalina

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Christopher Duffley

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Apr 16, 2021, 5:46:22 PM4/16/21
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Hey there,

 

I can tell you for a fact that the Soundcraft Signature 22 MTK works excellently with Logic and Big Sur, as I use it on occasion when I do podcast interview episodes. I’ve used Loopback for this lately with Zoom and my M-Audio MobilePre interface to keep the mixer at 0 dB or so, as it has a -15 DB level or slightly higher with the analog meters at 0 dB, and then have Zoom on a separate channel pair. However, you can always reassign the outs in Audio MIDI Setup.

 

Hope this helps!

Chris

 

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Jean-Claude Provost

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Apr 16, 2021, 7:34:42 PM4/16/21
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Hey Chris,  Seeing your name makes me remember that you are the guy who recommended this to me😊  I know, it takes me a while to make a decision…  That’s what happens when you have another job😊

 

Yeah, the idea of a digital console remote controlled either with an app or a browser on a PC or a phone was quite appealing but, until somebody gives me a successful example, I’m going to assume that, for now, it is out of our reach.  Mind you, if those consoles had some sort of an API, I wouldn’t mind programming the interface my self, but, never heard of that either…

 

Cheers,

 

Jean-Claude Provost

Jean-Claude Provost

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Apr 16, 2021, 7:39:47 PM4/16/21
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Hey Chris,

 

I forgot to ask, I take it you don’t have any issues going in the settings of the 22MTK?  Menus are rememberable or, at least, easily accessible?

 

Thanks,

 

Cheers,

 

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Hey there,

Christopher Duffley

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Apr 16, 2021, 11:30:11 PM4/16/21
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Hey there,

 

Yes, the Control Panel for Windows is accessible. It appears in the System Tray and you just go in there as long as it’s connected to modify the settings. That is, of course, assuming that you installed the multichannel driver that you can download from the website.

 

On the Mac side, because it’s both analog but also because it’s Core Audio compliant, there’s no need to go into something else, except for Audio MIDI Setup to configure it, which is of course accessible with VoiceOveR. Keep in mind, however, that the default outs will be Analog 1 and Analog 2, so to change this, go to Configure Speakers and you can change them there. These will work only if the USB Return buttons on the channels to be output are pushed in, because you’re asking for the digital input, not the analog input. Also, the digital input is pre-gain, so the gain knob can be wherever you want it and it won’t be affected.

Jean-Claude Provost

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Apr 17, 2021, 3:31:48 AM4/17/21
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Hello good sir,

 

Not only it helps, but it stripps me off a grand or so😊

 

You wouldn’t believe how many devices I have looked at this past week😊  I can’t be the only one going through this agony, We definitely should have an appleVis style place where one can look & benefit from the community’s experience…, where one can look at devices & find the kind of specific info you just gave me…

 

I mean, it’s not like I didn’t take the time to investigate…  I went to my music store’s website which has, in my opinion, one of the best features descriptions & specs I have seen, then I browsed the Soundcraft site.  Both sites were very accessible & easy to use.  Finally, I spoke to both the console guy at my store, then, not being completely satisfied, I called Soundcraft’s tech support & spoke with a very knowledgeable guy who gave me the design difference between models, some specs & a lot of technical info about the interfaces.  I considered myself lucky that, out of the support agent’s pool, he was the one to pick up my call!

 

Of course, I asked & explained about accessibility to both guys & even after all that, nobody gave me that specific info you just gave me which, let’s face it, is almost make or break details…

 

The conclusion? In spite of my perseverance & of everybody’s good will & extremely good knowledge, nothing compares to the quality & usefulness of the information a visually impaired owner can provide…  We do have particular needs & we need to give ourselves the tools to explore this market which is becoming more & more complex (& uncertain) each day…

 

Anyways, I’m getting off my soap box😊 but, if people are willing to participate, by sharing their experience with the different devices they use or used & agree on some format, I’m willing to pitch in to create then centralize something that will be, I think, a resource everybody will find very useful, to say the least…

 

I think the idea is not to create yet another new place.  We already have at least 2 specialized websites & at least one Youtube channel (plus maybe others I’m not aware of).  We just have to compile that info somewhere, then agree with an owner/moderator to integrate that info with what they already have.

 

What form would this have?  Is it a spreadsheet or a web-based pre-defined canvass questionnaire we would all agree upon, is it audio descriptions, walking through the devices’ features, accessibility, buttons & menu lists, oral or written menu descriptions, etc?  It’s probably all those & more.  The idea is to centralize it somewhere.  Then, if people contribute enough, it becomes a question of data classification & organization, which will turn in all into information.

 

So If people think this is a sensible idea, & are willing to pitch in with info about the devices they use, I’m willing to be the info consolidator & to do what it takes to integrate this to an already existing environment.  I know in some cases (such as for keyboards) André & others have made extensive contributions.  In those cases, perhaps just a link would be in order.  For other things, like mixers, Tuners, plug-ins, amplifiers, compressors, effects, etc, I think an easi to navigate repertory where you could look for information by device name, device type, manufacturer, hardware/software, would come in pretty handy for us all.

 

& if there is enough interest, the subject of this note will change😊

 

What say y’all? & Christopher, thanks again!

 

Jean-Claude Provost

Ricky Prevatte

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Apr 17, 2021, 1:19:24 PM4/17/21
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I can’t tell you how hard it is to get an accessible mixer.
What all can you do with this sound craft?
How many ox outs do they have?
I have a Tascam but it only has two ox out so that’s very hard at the studio for everyone to have their own individual ox monitor. But I think it’s about time we have an accessible console.

Ricky Prevatte


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Jean-Claude Provost

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Apr 17, 2021, 5:24:49 PM4/17/21
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Hi Ricky,

 

Well I guess that indicates there is a need to create what I’m referring to in my note😊

 

If I’m not mistaken, the Soundcraft Signature 22MTK has 6 auxes & 2 stereo/4 mono  subgroups, plus the mastermix, plus the headphones, plus the 22 USB outs…  But Chris can correct me because he owns one…  I haven’t received mine yet..  I just started to read the manual…  But if you go to soundcraft.com & look for the Signature series, then the 22MTK, you’ll be able to download the manual & to read about its features…  Soundcraft’s site is quite accessible.

 

The number of analog inputs you require will be an important factor in your decision & in the price you’ll pay for those…

 

HTH,

 

Cheers,

 

Jean-Claude Provost

TheOreoMonster

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Apr 19, 2021, 8:48:11 AM4/19/21
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Hey Ricky, 

For headphone Mixes you will have a lot more flexibility using an audio interface with enough outs and the DAW to set it up. Since the DAW is accessible its just a matter of setting up Aux tracks routed to the different outputs on the interface and then plugging in some adapters or headphone amps into those to make it happen. 
The Zoom L series have a lot of headphone amps built in and its easy enough to do a headphone mix however this isn’t as flexible as an interface would be since you have limited returns from the DAW. 
Just my two cents on the matter. Mixers have their place, mostly for radio etc, but unfortunately Most of the current crop aren’t as full featured as previous generations were and their is ultimately a lot more flexibility with the right interface. And as for Radio, you can get  the functionality of the mixer with a lot more flexibility using tools like Audio Hijack or LoopBack on MacOS for less than the Mixer cost.

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Ricky Prevatte

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Apr 19, 2021, 5:15:22 PM4/19/21
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Remember when I speak about a mixer I also use it for a five piece band.
We play live sometimes we might have six pieces.
So that is why I am interested in a mixer that has a digital interface in it.
Right now I got the Tascam traded the zoom back to Sweetwater.
I want one that you can control with an iPad or computer or iPhone that will actually tell me what frequency I have just like we can monitor an equalizer in Pro Tools.
Man if somebody would make a mixer that would speak like the native instruments stuff I would be so happy I would have to change my underwear.

Ricky Prevatte


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Hey Ricky, 

TheOreoMonster

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Apr 19, 2021, 5:43:44 PM4/19/21
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Some do use an audio interface live, but I can understand not wanting to go that route. If you want Modern the X32/M32 unfortunately. May be your best option. Not sure how accessible the iOS apps are but plenty of blind people use them so it’s either iOS or they are doing command line from the computer.  The Soundcraft maybe the best option of the current crop of mixers if it’s got enough aux channels for you and if its like an old school mixer with one knob per function on each channel. Or go old school and track down a Mackie1640I All analog with full 4 band on each channel and you can choose to send the signal to the DAW after the EQ unlike the current crop of digital mixers. 6 aux outs that you can use for monitor mixes as well. It’s firewire though so you will need a bit of an adapter chain to connect it to a modern Mac, but it was core audio compliant so drivers shouldn’t be an issue. 
Which tascam are you on BTW that’s got an accessible app?

-T.O.M


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