About zoom vs leo-editor

[Edward K. Ream]

When I awoke this morning I saw that our text communications in leo-editor have significant advantages over zoom conversations: they are public and permanent. We can read and reread postings at our leisure.

I have been overestimating the value of face-to-face discussions based on a paper (probably in Nature or Science) that stated that physical proximity of collaborators improved their creativity/innovation. That conclusion might still be true, but that paper was written a long time ago by internet standards.

Summary

zoom is great for getting acquainted. I'll be happy to set up a zoom time with any of you.

Imo, the leo-editor forum is significantly better than zoom for engineering discussions.

Edward

[Matt Wilkie]

To my mind face-to-face and text and audio and video each have their merit, and each with their own most appropriate applications. And all best used in augmentation with their bretheren rather than supplanting.

[Edward K. Ream]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 10:19 AM Matt Wilkie <map...@gmail.com> wrote:

To my mind face-to-face and text and audio and video each have their merit, and each with their own most appropriate applications. And all best used in augmentation with their bretheren rather than supplanting.

I agree. I think I was over-weighting the importance of proximity.

Edward

[tfer]

Just like the outliner "More" provided inspiration for Leo, Leo provides me with inspiration for various thinking, capturing, organizing tools.  I've mentioned my idea for a presentation plugin for reveal.js, here's another.

Now that solid state memory has freed us from from the micro-cassettes of yore, I'm amazed of how little innovation there has been in voice recorder apps.  Something that allows for more than labeling a big block of narration is needed.

Imagine Leo turned to this task, headlines would label snippets of audio captured in their body.  To give a visual representation of the ongoing capture, generate a sequence of dashes to represent words, (not exact, more to hint and show duration).  You could add to this by adding punctuation via the keyboard while dictating.  Headlines can typed in and the snippets rearranged/split/combined.  Speech to text can be applied, (more to sharpen the visual representation then to provide text, STT is still pretty iffy -- but it could do a better job at providing dashes for words, maybe add an initial an final letter to some.  The text would be available in another pane, a "pacer" would follow along with playback.

The biggest thing this all provides is a way to capture thoughts/conversations and a way to access them in a non-linear way.

Tom

[john lunzer]

Sometimes it's just nice to talk to someone.

[Edward K. Ream]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 12:54 PM john lunzer <lun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sometimes it's just nice to talk to someone.

Yes!

Edward

[Matt Wilkie]

Imagine Leo turned to this task, headlines would label snippets of audio captured in their body

I started a course today called Introduction to Mathematical Thinking. One of the things this offering has that beats the pants off other video courses I've been subjected to is that it has a full text transcript, and they are tied together. Skip ahead in the video and so does the transcript. Click on a sentence in the transcript and it jumps to that part of the video. I would love to have this in podcasts and especially audio books.

I don't think I'd like it in Leo for my own work, the sound of my own recorded voice is just too wierd, but I can certainly imagine using Leo to grab and re-arrange snippets from lectures and so on.

-matt

[Edward K. Ream]

Thanks for these ideas. I suggest creating an enhancement issue. Otherwise they will be forgotten.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 7:35 PM Matt Wilkie <map...@gmail.com> wrote:

Imagine Leo turned to this task, headlines would label snippets of audio captured in their body

I started a course today called Introduction to Mathematical Thinking. One of the things this offering has that beats the pants off other video courses I've been subjected to is that it has a full text transcript, and they are tied together. Skip ahead in the video and so does the transcript. Click on a sentence in the transcript and it jumps to that part of the video. I would love to have this in podcasts and especially audio books.

...I can certainly imagine using Leo to grab and re-arrange snippets from lectures and so on.

Excellent ideas. Please create an enhancement request.

Edward

[Matt Wilkie]

...I can certainly imagine using Leo to grab and re-arrange snippets from lectures and so on.

Excellent ideas. Please create an enhancement request.

Done! https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/1556

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

Hi,

Even better that Zoom is Jitsi[1], which doesn't do extensive data and metadata collection just to have a simple conference, is open source, gratis, multiplatform and just requires a link to start your talk.

[1] meet.jit.si/

Leo is awesome for a lot of other thinks.

Cheers,

Offray

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[Matt Wilkie]

Even better that Zoom is Jitsi[1], which doesn't do extensive data and metadata collection just to have a simple conference, is open source, gratis, multiplatform and just requires a link to start your talk.

[1] meet.jit.si/

Thanks Offray. This is useful to me in another context (and maybe this one too ;-)

 

Leo is awesome for a lot of other thinks.

Definately. The learning about other interesting things/thoughts feature of this group is what kept me here long enough to learn about Leo itself. ;-)

-matt

[Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas]

On 1/04/20 11:15 p. m., Matt Wilkie wrote:

Even better that Zoom is Jitsi[1], which doesn't do extensive data and metadata collection just to have a simple conference, is open source, gratis, multiplatform and just requires a link to start your talk.

[1] meet.jit.si/

Thanks Offray. This is useful to me in another context (and maybe this one too ;-)

 

Glad to know. I have been using it since before quarantine, but now I'm meeting for my classes there with my students.

Leo is awesome for a lot of other thinks.

Definately. The learning about other interesting things/thoughts feature of this group is what kept me here long enough to learn about Leo itself. ;-)

Yes diverse, respectful and curious minded people talking on Internet are scarce these days. I'm glad to be here since long ago. Its an inspiring place to learn from people like you and all the Leonistas :-).

Cheers,

Offray

[Matt Wilkie]

Yes diverse, respectful and curious minded people talking on Internet are scarce these days. I'm glad to be here since long ago. Its an inspiring place to learn from people like you and all the Leonistas :-).

If you haven't already you must lose yourself for a few hours in the mind of Gwern Branwen (or if you have, perhaps it's time to do so again). https://www.gwern.net

-matt