I'm changing Leo's mascot on Leo's web pages

[Edward K. Ream]

Apparently only Safari supports .tif files, so my plan to put a vectorized Lion on Leo's home page is on hold.  Boo hoo.

The Lion will likely reappear in an hour or three. It's picky work, surprisingly.

Edward

[Jacob Peck]

Most browsers support .svg files, which is another vector format.

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[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:01 AM Jacob Peck <gates...@gmail.com> wrote:

Most browsers support .svg files, which is another vector format.

Thanks! I'll try converting the .tif file to .svg.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 8:01 AM Jacob Peck <gates...@gmail.com> wrote:

Most browsers support .svg files, which is another vector format.

Thanks! I'll try converting the .tif file to .svg.

A snap with convertio. I'll get rid of the red eyes eventually :-) BTW, #3070 will say that the Lion logo is used by permission.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 7:58:38 AM UTC-6 Edward K. Ream wrote:

The Lion will likely reappear in an hour or three.

A (licensed) bitmapped Lion now appears on Leo's home page, but not on any other page.

Recent attempts to update the other pages have failed, somewhat mysteriously. Builds seem to be stuck in an endless queue. There have been discussions only about this kind of failure, but I'm not sure at present what to do about it.  Stay tuned.

Edward

[jkn]

Inkscape (https://inkscape.org) is good for editing .svg files, BTW.

[Jacob Peck]

Seconding Inkscape, it's my go-to for this kind of task.

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[jkn]

I volunteer to use Inkscape to improve the red eye removal, if you like. Edward's recent effort is ... laudable ...

I could rotate it a smidgen as well. You'd have to get the .AI file to me though (Inkscape can accept Illustrator files)

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 10:15 AM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

Inkscape (https://inkscape.org) is good for editing .svg files, BTW.

Thanks. That's what I used before, but I had forgotten.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 10:32 AM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

I volunteer to use Inkscape to improve the red eye removal, if you like. Edward's recent effort is ... laudable ...

Thanks! Please do this, and put the result in devel.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

A (licensed) bitmapped Lion now appears on Leo's home page, but not on any other page.

Recent attempts to update the other pages have failed, somewhat mysteriously.

The workaround will be to develop Leo's website in the devel branch. Leo's Logo and splash screen will use an .svg version of the licensed image.

I'll merge devel into gh-pages when everything looks good, but I'll wait until Saturday before attempting another build.

Even now, Leo's website is better than before. To my newly enlightened eyes, Leo's old watermarked logo looks embarrassingly bad. And yes, embarrassingly clueless with respect to copyright.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

I changed Leo's homepage to use an .svg version of the Logo. See the attached image.

It looks like the .svg has a transparent background. I think a white background would look better. I'll leave that to you.

Edward

[Zoom.Quiet]

Edward K. Ream <edre...@gmail.com> 于2023年1月20日周五 03:47写道：

transparent background is good more,
can match all kinds of color background,
just add one more div for define background color ;-)

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[jkn]

I'm not seeing a .svg, but a png.

Edward, if you could send me the .ai image directly (using the email address I used to you a few days ago), that would be best.

Regards, J^n

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:35 PM Zoom.Quiet <zoom....@gmail.com> wrote:

> > It looks like the .svg has a transparent background. I think a white background would look better.

transparent background is good more,
can match all kinds of color background,
just add one more div for define background color ;-)

Thanks. I agree. We'll leave this image as transparent.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 3:31 AM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

> I'm not seeing a .svg, but a png.

Leo's website now uses _static/LeoLogo-Small.jpg as the logo. Do you see this .jpg file now?

Edward, if you could send me the .ai image directly (using the email address I used to you a few days ago), that would be best.

- The devel branch now contains LeoLogo.svg in the leo-editor/docs/_static folder.Imo, we should use LeoLogo.svg.

- Most browsers can't render .ai files.

- I agree with zoom.quiet: a transparent background is best. I'll add the required .css to conf.py.

No need to do anything yet. I just received a dmca notice from dreamstime. Purchasing the image should clear things up. If not, goodbye Lion.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:21:45 PM UTC-6 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> Recent attempts to update the other pages have failed, somewhat mysteriously.

Hurray! The most recent GitHub Pages build completed successfully. All pages now show LeoLogo.svg.

I expect that Dreamstime will allow us to use the .svg image. Perhaps they will require us to use one of their .jpg images. Maybe Dreamstime doesn't like the renaming of the image.  We shall see.

My hope is that all the licensing questions will be resolved in a matter of days. Until then there is no further point in updating Leo's website.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 4:20:54 AM UTC-6 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> - I agree with zoom.quiet: a transparent background is best. I'll add the required .css to conf.py.

Rev 8a2d0a6 in devel adds _static/custom.css and changes conf.py accordingly. These changes make "white" the background color of the logo area (img.logo).

This work will remain regardless of the status of Leo's Lion.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 4:43:13 AM UTC-6 Edward K. Ream wrote:

>  I just received a dmca notice from dreamstime

I've just had a pleasant email exchange with Malina Tudoroiu at Dreamstime. Dreamstime is good with using the Tribal Lion on Leo's website without any further cost. Hurray!

Edward

[Mike Hodson]

Hi Edward,

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 03:20 Edward K. Ream <edre...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 3:31 AM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

- Most browsers can't render .ai files.

You seem to be overlooking the point that an Adobe illustrator file would be technically the source of _any_ output, bitmapped or vector. If one can modify the Adobe illustrator file then any output could be reliably created from that. 

My thought, and I may be wrong, is that once converted to SVG the same may not apply and the Adobe illustrator file would still be the 'master'.

Mike

[Edward K. Ream]

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 7:52 AM Mike Hodson <mys...@gmail.com> wrote:

You seem to be overlooking the point that an Adobe illustrator file would be technically the source of _any_ output, bitmapped or vector. If one can modify the Adobe illustrator file then any output could be reliably created from that.

My thought, and I may be wrong, is that once converted to SVG the same may not apply and the Adobe illustrator file would still be the 'master'.

Hi Mike,

I don't understand your comments about the "master" image.

Anyway, I haven't found an easy (free) way to change ai files, but it was easy to convert the .ai file to the .svg file. Inkscape can edit .svg files, and all major browsers support .svg images, so we are good.

Am I missing something? The Dreamscape people seem good with using a .svg version of the Tribal Lion.

Edward

[jkn]

Hi Edward

    what you may be missing is that Inkscape can edit and convert the .AI file, generating an SVG. That is what I (thought I) had suggested when I asked for the AI file...

Regards, Jon

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:26:36 AM UTC-6 jkn wrote:

Hi Edward

    what you may be missing is that Inkscape can edit and convert the .AI file, generating an SVG. That is what I (thought I) had suggested when I asked for the AI file...

Thanks for the clarification.

All pages on Leo's website now use the (beautiful!) .svg image. As you can see, the eyes are black, so all seems good.

The only remaining task is to make sure that all the old bitmapped images are gone. That should happen today.

Edward

[jkn]

Is it worth, whilst going through this recent pain, to make the desktop icon match the splashscreen/website/deamstime icon? ie. the small reddish bewhiskered icon, that you also see when ALT-TABing through apps etc.

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:50:05 AM UTC-6 Edward K. Ream wrote:

The only remaining task is to make sure that all the old bitmapped images are gone.

Done in devel. However, #3073 reminds me that the slideshow pages are way out of date.

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:58:57 AM UTC-6 jkn wrote:

Is it worth, whilst going through this recent pain, to make the desktop icon match the splashscreen/website/deamstime icon? ie. the small reddish bewhiskered icon, that you also see when ALT-TABing through apps etc.

I'm happy to leave the icon as it is for now :-)

Edward