and thanx again, EKR made the so grace tools for editor everything as Literate.
Your plan of careful consideration here is warranted, lest these become distractions. As my area of expertise is emacs these days and I regularly use org mode I would argue heavily against Leo's interaction with emacs, though it doesn't' seem that you need much convincing. The emacs culture is steadfast and the org-mode sub-culture more so. It is not worth one's time to bring Leo to emacs/org as that culture is happy with what they have. It is perhaps worth one's time to bring some of org to Leo, but this can be done via "feature borrowing" as opposed bridging.
With regards to Leo and emacs the focus, if any, should be on an org-mode importer and exporter. I believe these already exist but in what state I can't say, if there are improvements that can be done and it is interesting to you then go ahead, I believe any work towards these would be beneficial to Leo's universal utility. That said I don't think this work is a high priority.
You also make a good point about Flexx's short comings. I was hoping that Flexx would continue to be developed and it was looking like it would but Almar Klein has all but abandoned the project in favor of his own QT based editor. It's too bad, for a while it almost felt like Flexx was the future of Python UIs.
You're doing great and Leo is doing great without the constant barrage of "I wish Leo did this" requests. Leo's legacy will be more affected by your day to day collapsing of complexity than anything else. New features are great but streamlining Leo's current capabilities offers more value.
Hi,
I think that Leo has been pretty good at creating its own singular place that no other program occupies. There are a lot of interactive notebooks, for example and a lot of overlapping ideas in such space. But the way Leo (de)construct text (markup or code) is pretty unique and inspiring, even if to think in new combinations (like in my case with Grafoscopio, mixing ideas from Leo, Jupyter and Pharo).
I'm not looking for an emergent interactive outliner in the Python world anymore. I don't know if Leo can be extended in that way, but in any case, seems that the way to do it, should be following the Leo culture, instead of embedding Leo in other programs. Maybe there is some kind of Qt widget that can be used to show interactive outputs for calculations, graphics and/or rendered text that can be added as a (real time?) lateral pane, but that exploration could borrow ideas from other places, while belonging to the "Leo Culture".
Thanks for the exploration and inspiration that comes from the Leo culture and worldview.
Cheers,
Offray
I'm not looking for an emergent interactive outliner in the Python world anymore. I don't know if Leo can be extended in that way, but in any case, seems that the way to do it, should be following the Leo culture, instead of embedding Leo in other programs.
Maybe there is some kind of Qt widget that can be used to show interactive outputs for calculations, graphics and/or rendered text that can be added as a (real time?) lateral pane, but that exploration could borrow ideas from other places, while belonging to the "Leo Culture".