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+1 - API machinery supports clients and sigs, but does not own them (it can help own client machinery though)
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+1 - very good idea
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Fabiano Franz <ffr...@redhat.com> wrote:
I've been talking to a few people in the past couple weeks and now we'd like to formally propose the creation of SIG-CLI (Special Interest Group for the Kubernetes Command Line Interface).The idea would be to have a centralized place / meeting to discuss things related to the CLI architecture, standards, compliance, and usability; or anything else related to `kubectl` (and likely others) that might need deeper or more top-level interactions than what we can do in pull requests. Some nice examples are the recent discussions around refactoring cmdutil.Factory, the kubectl extensions framework, moving printers to the server, etc.Let me know if that sounds like something we need and want. I wrote a draft[1] of what could be our brief mission statement and I'll start the process depending on your feedback.Thanks!Fabiano FranzSenior Software EngineerRed Hat OpenShift[1] "SIG-CLIThe Kubernetes Command Line Interface SIG (sig-cli) is a working group for the contributor community interested in `kubectl` and related tools.We focus on the development and standardization of the CLI framework and its dependencies, the establishment of conventions for writing CLI commands, POSIX compliance, and improving the command line tools from a developer and devops user experience and usability perspective."
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Great idea!
Q: dies API machinery SIG own the API UX? If not, it would make sense to consider overall API and CLI as a broader UX topic.
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On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Fabiano Franz <ffr...@redhat.com> wrote:
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Yes, today API machinery owns API UX. Since the API has to work for multiple clients well it needs to take requirements from the various clients.
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As we already discussed on email, I believe it's time to do this. :) Really look forward to this.
在 2016年9月23日星期五 UTC+8上午4:37:54,Fabiano Franz写道:--I've been talking to a few people in the past couple weeks and now we'd like to formally propose the creation of SIG-CLI (Special Interest Group for the Kubernetes Command Line Interface).The idea would be to have a centralized place / meeting to discuss things related to the CLI architecture, standards, compliance, and usability; or anything else related to `kubectl` (and likely others) that might need deeper or more top-level interactions than what we can do in pull requests. Some nice examples are the recent discussions around refactoring cmdutil.Factory, the kubectl extensions framework, moving printers to the server, etc.Let me know if that sounds like something we need and want. I wrote a draft[1] of what could be our brief mission statement and I'll start the process depending on your feedback.Thanks!Fabiano FranzSenior Software EngineerRed Hat OpenShift[1] "SIG-CLIThe Kubernetes Command Line Interface SIG (sig-cli) is a working group for the contributor community interested in `kubectl` and related tools.We focus on the development and standardization of the CLI framework and its dependencies, the establishment of conventions for writing CLI commands, POSIX compliance, and improving the command line tools from a developer and devops user experience and usability perspective."
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I'll start the ball rolling on getting the resources for a SIG setup and some proposed meeting times.
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Yes, today API machinery owns API UX. Since the API has to work for multiple clients well it needs to take requirements from the various clients.
Great idea!
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As we already discussed on email, I believe it's time to do this. :) Really look forward to this.
在 2016年9月23日星期五 UTC+8上午4:37:54,Fabiano Franz写道:--I've been talking to a few people in the past couple weeks and now we'd like to formally propose the creation of SIG-CLI (Special Interest Group for the Kubernetes Command Line Interface).The idea would be to have a centralized place / meeting to discuss things related to the CLI architecture, standards, compliance, and usability; or anything else related to `kubectl` (and likely others) that might need deeper or more top-level interactions than what we can do in pull requests. Some nice examples are the recent discussions around refactoring cmdutil.Factory, the kubectl extensions framework, moving printers to the server, etc.Let me know if that sounds like something we need and want. I wrote a draft[1] of what could be our brief mission statement and I'll start the process depending on your feedback.Thanks!Fabiano FranzSenior Software EngineerRed Hat OpenShift[1] "SIG-CLIThe Kubernetes Command Line Interface SIG (sig-cli) is a working group for the contributor community interested in `kubectl` and related tools.We focus on the development and standardization of the CLI framework and its dependencies, the establishment of conventions for writing CLI commands, POSIX compliance, and improving the command line tools from a developer and devops user experience and usability perspective."
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Thanks for the feedback everyone!We now need to set a time for the SIG meetings. At least initially we'd like to make it bi-weekly and try to avoid conflicts with the other existing ones, as far as possible. If you're interested in participating, please indicate a couple preferred times with the timezone and we'll try to make it work for at least the most people.Thanks!Fabiano FranzSenior Software EngineerRed Hat OpenShift
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How about we hash this out on the new SIG mailing list? :-)