On 12/4/20 10:40 AM, Fred. wrote:
> 1D 1S
> 1NT 2C
> 2X 3D (where X is a suit bid )
>
> is invitational per B-5: "Over a minimum reply, responder's only forcing
> continuations are jumps or OM."
If X=D, I agree that's invitational. That's not true of others, though
the 2C itself already promised invitational values. The problem is that
2C shows 5cS. The original question was whether responder has an
invitational D sequence when holding only 4cS.
> Note that you generally only want for game in a minor when
> the minor delivers 3 more tricks than NT. So, my own thinking, and,
> perhaps, EK's, is that you shouldn't be inviting in a minor when all you
> have is 4-card suits.
I agree with that. Responder presumably has 4cS, longer D, and
invitational values. Is there an invitational sequence, or does
responder have to make a unilateral game/no game decision?
> I have a similar feeling about the auction
> 1D 1S
> 1NT 3D,
> As opener, I see responder as distributional,
Agreed on that, and I'd add probably not 5cS. 3D is forcing per B-5 but
only promises 4c support. I think it delivers 5c except when holding a
weak 5cM or 4441 or 4144.
> and should be pleased to show Hx or Hxx fit for spades.
With responder holding only 4cS, I'm not sure why you'd want to show Hx
support. I'd show xxx if the rest of my hand made me think 4S in a 4-3
might be the right game (say xxx xx AKJx AKxx).