White House ignores legal issues in strikes on boat in Caribbean

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Nov 23, 2025, 8:16:36 PM (12 days ago) Nov 23
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/22/drug-boats-strikes-cia-legal-concerns/

Shades of Bush 43 and Abu Ghraib. Just get judges to interpret the law any way you want. 
POTUS is considering attacking Venezuelan mainland and maybe taking out Maduro
Isn't that WAR? Just askin'. 
If we want to go after any/all narco countries, it would make sense to go after Columbia, Peru, and China. Also, Afghanistan and Turkey grow huge amounts of opium poppies. 
So much for non-intervention. 
It would be cheaper and a lot more efficient, not to mention less antagonizing to many other nations, if we worked on the demand side of the problem rather than the supply side. 
We look like a drug addled bully, going after all these sources and not working on the problem of drug addiction. 
The international community will simultaneously cringe and laugh at our incompetence. 
But hey, we have 11 aircraft carriers; might as well put one in play. We sent the new bigger, badder USS Gerald Ford. No reason to use one of those crappy Nimitz class  relics. 

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Nov 24, 2025, 8:42:35 AM (11 days ago) Nov 24
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So go after the people abusing drugs not the people manufacturing the drugs? 
How exactly?

Be nice, even when you don't want to!


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Nov 24, 2025, 3:38:13 PM (11 days ago) Nov 24
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Offer better treatment programs and better access. Duh. This isn't rocket science; nor is it a new idea.
As long as the demand is crazy high, people will find ways to fulfill that demand. That's why drugs cost tens of thousands per kilo. The demand is so great that it justifies extreme efforts to satisfy it. Heroin and cocaine aren't any harder to produce than coffee. The markup in price has to do with the difficulty in importation. 
But n any case, it's not legal for us to wage a genuine war in a foreign country, no matter how we try to justify it. And now Trump talks about attacking Mexico. Sort of like what I predicted; that he'd widen the scope of his attacks. When do we attack China? 
Another point is that this attack is doomed to failure. If you want to stop drugs from coming to the US, it would be prudent to find a choke point in the pipeline. Attacking the growers is the exact opposite. They can just move somewhere else. Check out this site:

  • Colombia: As the world's largest cocaine producer, Colombia has consistently high levels of coca cultivation, particularly in remote areas such as the departments of Putumayo, Caquetá, Meta, Guaviare, Nariño, Antioquia, and Vichada.
  • Peru: Peru is the second-largest grower, with significant cultivation in regions like the Upper Huallaga Valley and the Amazon border regions of Ucayali and Loreto.
  • Bolivia: Bolivia is the third major producer, with cultivation centered in areas such as the Chapare Valley and the Apolo region in La Paz. 
Emerging Cultivation Areas
While the Andes remain the primary source, there have been reports and evidence of expanding coca cultivation in other areas in recent years: 
  • Central America: Organized crime groups have established plantations and processing labs in northern Central American countries, including Honduras, Guatemala, and Belize, likely as a strategy to shorten supply chains to northern markets like the United States.
  • Mexico: Small-scale, illicit coca plantations have been discovered in Mexico, with unique alkaloid profiles different from those in South America. 
So are we going to attack ALL these places? 
Whack-a-mole policy. 

And Fentanyl is worse. It can be produced anywhere, literally. 
My feeling is that the problem isn't solvable; unless of course we do it like China and just kill every addict. Not really part of how a liberal, libertarian society operates. 
Legalizing drugs should lower the cost dramatically. The cartels should go out of business. We don't have coffee cartels; not enough money in it. We don't have alcohol cartels either.
Just a notion. Imperfect to be sure. But we learned  years ago with alcohol that legal restraints just produced an illegal trade. It didn't stop people from drinking. The same goes for all drugs. 


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