ISO20022

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arunpra...@gmail.com

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Sep 9, 2020, 2:41:56 AM9/9/20
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Hi Team,

Currently we are working on  ISO8583. we need to do for IS020022.

Is there any possibility in JPOS.

Thanks for your advance.

chhil

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Sep 9, 2020, 8:46:23 AM9/9/20
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In my opinion, I don't see direct support being added for it.

20022 is an XML based message (from my limited understanding) . You can probably use REST support for it. You can also try something similar to FSDIsomsg which is a wrapper around delimited content to send it using jpos iso messages. 

-chhil

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Alejandro Revilla

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Sep 9, 2020, 9:38:26 PM9/9/20
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Actually, we (jPOS Consulting/Transactility) have been working on it for a long while now, and have a handful projects lining up for ISO 20022 support. It looks like XML, but it's an ASN.1 thing, not necessarily tied to XML (XER) encoding, you can do PER too. I don't like to announce stuff until it's already there, so the only thing I can mention now is that we are working on it. In our systems, it will slowly replace ISO-8583 v2003 based internal message format (jPOS CMF).


chhil

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Sep 9, 2020, 10:28:27 PM9/9/20
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I stand corrected. Thank you for the update, Alejandro. 

-chhil

galih.l...@gmail.com

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Sep 10, 2020, 5:56:39 AM9/10/20
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will it use http rather than socket? if yes what library will you use for the http?

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Alejandro Revilla

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Sep 10, 2020, 1:12:47 PM9/10/20
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We eat our own dogfood. jPOS-EE http-client module (which currently use Apache http-client, but we are not tied to it, the jPOS-EE module, which is actually a TransactionParticipant, gives us the ability to change in the future, if we happen to wish to do so).


Zhong Zhao

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Sep 26, 2020, 7:57:13 PM9/26/20
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Hi Alehandro,

I understand you would like to announce stuff when it is ready.

Can I ask roughly what is your progress on this and do you know roughly when you will have something to announce? Something like we are still working on the framework to pack/unpack the ISO20022 object, or is it done we are working on the HTTP/TCP channel to send it over the wire etc.

The reason for asking this is for my projects, I was thinning if I should use third party library to marshal/unmarshal the XML objects and send it over TCP or wait a little longer for jPos to be supporting this. It is not as high priorities as the other ISO8583 projects I am working on.

It is absolutely not a commitment, I just want to know roughly how close are we, or is it like COVID 19 vaccine, which might never come :).

Thanks
Zhao

Alejandro Revilla

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Sep 26, 2020, 8:05:21 PM9/26/20
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Last time I promised a new version for our BBS, back in the 80s, I couldn't deliver, so now, I like to announce stuff that it's ready to download.



karoy dev

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Feb 3, 2021, 10:12:22 PM2/3/21
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So, I have become curious about ISO 20022 and how it relates to ISO 8583.

First, it seems ISO 20022 adoption and implementations were being delayed even before the pandemic hit. I found only a few projects in the SEPA area and in the UK, as well as in the US & Canada.

It seems to me that 20022 is over and above, but also including, card originated financial transactions, so the only way 20022 & 8583 would coexist is if in an Acquirer <=> Issuer <=> Bank card tx chain would have to keep an existing ISO 8583 between Issuer & Bank in place. Am I seeing this right? Nobody out there seems to be talking about how and why you would have implementation of both standards in place.

As well, many, if not all, FI's are providing modern REST API's for integration of ISO 20022 messaging. The XSL based message design is for the purposes of standards definition, the implementation of the data containers and their validation can be, and being, done any which way current technology permits.
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