[JIRA] (JENKINS-42973) User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

[kshultz@cloudbees.com (JIRA)]

Karl Shultz created an issue

Jenkins / JENKINS-42973 User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder Issue Type: Bug Assignee: James Dumay Attachments: image-2017-03-21-14-30-32-279.png, image-2017-03-21-14-31-40-068.png Components: blueocean-pipeline-editor-plugin Created: 2017/Mar/21 6:31 PM Environment: Client: * Microsoft Windows 10 Professional, Microsoft Edge 38.14393.0.0 Jenkins: * Core 2.32.3 * Blue Ocean 1.0.0-rc1 * Blue Ocean Pipeline Editor 0.2-rc1 Priority: Major Reporter: Karl Shultz Summary: I have created, from within the Classic UI, a folder in which I can store my jobs. But when creating a new Pipeline from Blue Ocean, I don't see a way for me to store it there at creation time. Steps to recreate: 1. From the classic UI, create a new folder. Name it anything you like: 2. Now from Blue Ocean, create a new Pipeline. Notice that there's no way to "locate" the new Pipeline in the folder you just created (or in any folder for that matter): Add Comment

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[kshultz@cloudbees.com (JIRA)]

Karl Shultz updated an issue

Jenkins / JENKINS-42973 User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

Change By: Karl Shultz Component/s: blueocean-plugin Component/s: blueocean-pipeline-editor-plugin

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[jdumay@cloudbees.com (JIRA)]

James Dumay resolved as Not A Defect

Karl Shultz we've made the conscious decision to go for a different path than folders for organizing jobs in Blue Ocean. Folders encourage deep hierarchies of jobs which make it very difficult for users to discover their jobs (I can share some survey results if you are interested) and this is why browsing to a folder will not work in Blue Ocean nor is the usecase you have outlined in this ticket not supported.

Jenkins / JENKINS-42973 User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

Change By: James Dumay Status: Open Resolved Resolution: Not A Defect

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[kshultz@cloudbees.com (JIRA)]

Karl Shultz commented on JENKINS-42973

Re: User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder James, thanks for the explanation, I appreciate that.

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[kshultz@cloudbees.com (JIRA)]

Karl Shultz closed an issue as Not A Defect

As I just said above, this is a well-reasoned response, so I'll move this issue to a closed state.

Jenkins / JENKINS-42973

User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

Change By: Karl Shultz Status: Resolved Closed

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[jdumay@cloudbees.com (JIRA)]

James Dumay commented on JENKINS-42973

Re: User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder Karl Shultz thanks mate Really appreciate your team giving us a hand here!

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[matt.aizcorbe@gmail.com (JIRA)]

Matt Aizcorbe commented on JENKINS-42973

Re: User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

I see this issue was closed and while I completely understand the logic behind the decision it creates an issue for those that are using the role-based access strategy.  We manage a Jenkins instance that serves many teams and we've created a scheme where we create a folder for each team and then create a role allowing access to that folder.  This gives each team their own workspace for managing jobs and credentials.  This scheme necessarily means that teams can't create jobs at the root level and thus they can't leverage this VERY useful capability.  We are huge advocates for the new pipeline method and want to lower the barrier of entry for those that are used to the point and click capability of freestyle jobs.  I haven't figured out another authorization scheme that is manageable given the number of teams we support.  I'd welcome any suggestions.

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[jonathan@jonathanfoster.io (JIRA)]

Jonathan Foster commented on JENKINS-42973

Re: User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

James Dumay: I'm a huge fan of Blue Ocean. I'm coming to Jenkins from GitLab CI and I was really disappointed with the experience. That is until I came across Blue Ocean. Now I'm running into an issue though. I have the same use case as Matt Aizcorbe, we use folders to isolate different teams and products. How can I use Blue Ocean with this structure? What's the different path you referred to above and is it functional?

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[wilkinsonjulian@gmail.com (JIRA)]

Julian Wilkinson commented on JENKINS-42973

Re: User cannot create new Pipeline and locate it in a specific folder

Bump. The design doesn't account for organizations that use RBAC

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