[vJAM] - Next meetup - Jenkins contribution 101?

[Oleg Nenashev]

Hello,

I wanted to follow-up on the second online meetup. Since we have newcomers in the project (GSoC students, new plugin devs), it may be useful to conduct a Jenkins Development 101 meetup.

I would propose to conduct a meetup and repeat presentations from Hacksgiving and other intro presentations in order to minimize preparation efforts.

Possible talks:

• (?) - Top-level community overview
• I have some slides for it, but may be a subject for a Jenkins board representative
  
• Steven - Plugin development
• Tyler - jenkins.io - Writing blogposts and documentation
• Daniel - Stapler
• Tom(?) - new JavaScript-based UI development flow
• Oleg(?) - Test Automation in Jenkins Project
• All - Q&A Session

What do you think? Maybe we could conduct such event on the first/second week of June.

Thanks in advance,
Oleg

[Martin d'Anjou]

Steven,

If you could focus on Pipeline DSL plugin development rather than on traditional plugin development (the extensions are not from the same classes, etc.) it would be beneficial to Alex's project, the External Workspace Manager Plugin.

Thanks in advance,
Martin

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[Oleg Nenashev]

Hi,

Can we do this the second wk of June? This will give us about 2wks get people to RSVP. So that means I will need content to post on meetup.com as soon as possible, by tomorrow if possible.

Second week is less preferable from GSoC PoV, but I think mentors will be able to provide enough information. Jun 8 is a governance meeting. So maybe Jun 7 (common meeting time)? Would it be fine if we publish it without a final list of talks/speakers? Maybe we could allocate the slot and provide a preliminary list of talks.

Regarding the duration, I think we should not go beyond 3 hours. So it means about 3 talks (2 short + 1 long) + Q&A. So maybe we could even allocate 2 meetup slots.

If you could focus on Pipeline DSL plugin development rather than on traditional plugin development (the extensions are not from the same classes, etc.) it would be beneficial to Alex's project, the External Workspace Manager Plugin.

I think classic plugin development is still important (plugin structure, extension points, how to build/debug, simple UI). But I agree that Pipeline plugin development training would be useful as well.

 

[R. Tyler Croy]

Top-posting because I'm just the worst.


I do not think it is prudent to schedule anything until we have some speakers
lined up. And as Alyssa mentioned that no less than two weeks notice is
preferrable. I believe anything over two talks is going to be too much for one
event, since this is "online" there's not break times between like you might
have at a normal meetup. IMHO 2x45 minute talks would be the most ideal format.

If we can lock in a couple speakers before the end of the week, one talking
'standard' plugin dev, and one talking pipeline plugin dev (e.g. adding fancy
new steps), then I think we can sanely schedule something for June 14-16.



I understand the GSoC angle here, but these sessions will be recorded for
posterity and while we might miss some interactivity from students, it's not as
if the content will be lost and gone forever :)



On Fri, 20 May 2016, Alyssa Tong wrote:

> Hi Oleg,
>
> pls see my response embedded inline..

>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 10:52 PM, Oleg Nenashev <o.v.ne...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can we do this the second wk of June? This will give us about 2wks get
> >> people to RSVP. So that means I will need content to post on meetup.com
> >> as soon as possible, by tomorrow if possible.
> >>
> >
> > Second week is less preferable from GSoC PoV, but I think mentors will be
> > able to provide enough information. Jun 8 is a governance meeting. So maybe
> > Jun 7 (common meeting time)? Would it be fine if we publish it without a
> > final list of talks/speakers? Maybe we could allocate the slot and provide
> > a preliminary list of talks.
> >

> > AT: June 7 sounds good - in general anything between Tues & Thurs works
> best.. We can definitely post a "Tentative" agenda and clearly state agenda
> items might change. And then it's usually best to get the word out there
> about the event as soon as possible, at minimum 2 wks out so more eyes can
> get on it.

>
> Regarding the duration, I think we should not go beyond 3 hours. So it
> > means about 3 talks (2 short + 1 long) + Q&A. So maybe we could even
> > allocate 2 meetup slots.
> >

> > AT: +1. I liked how we did it last time where each speaker had 30 mins
> for their session. So 30-45min sessions works best.
>
> As for Q&A - I would suggest having others online to help answer questions
> in real time (via text). Any questions not covered via text it can be asked
> on the call or followup via blog. I really like this approach because it
> encourages an active interaction thru out the sessions.

>
> If you could focus on Pipeline DSL plugin development rather than on
> >> traditional plugin development (the extensions are not from the same
> >> classes, etc.) it would be beneficial to Alex's project, the External
> >> Workspace Manager Plugin.
> >
> >
> > I think classic plugin development is still important (plugin structure,
> > extension points, how to build/debug, simple UI). But I agree that Pipeline
> > plugin development training would be useful as well.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2016-05-20 1:59 GMT+03:00 Martin d'Anjou <martin....@gmail.com>:
> >
> >> Steven,
> >>
> >> If you could focus on Pipeline DSL plugin development rather than on
> >> traditional plugin development (the extensions are not from the same
> >> classes, etc.) it would be beneficial to Alex's project, the External
> >> Workspace Manager Plugin.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Martin
> >>
> >>
> >> On 16-05-19 03:51 PM, Oleg Nenashev wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I wanted to follow-up on the second online meetup. Since we have
> >> newcomers in the project (GSoC students, new plugin devs), it may be useful
> >> to conduct a Jenkins Development 101 meetup.
> >>
> >> I would propose to conduct a meetup and repeat presentations from
> >> Hacksgiving and other intro presentations in order to minimize preparation
> >> efforts.
> >>
> >> Possible talks:
> >>

> >> - (?) - Top-level community overview
> >> - I have some slides for it, but may be a subject for a Jenkins
> >> board representative
> >> - Steven - Plugin development
> >> - Tyler - jenkins.io - Writing blogposts and documentation
> >> - Daniel - Stapler
> >> - Tom(?) - new JavaScript-based UI development flow
> >> - Oleg(?) - Test Automation in Jenkins Project
> >> - All - Q&A Session

> >>
> >> What do you think? Maybe we could conduct such event on the first/second
> >> week of June.
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Oleg
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[Oleg Nenashev]

We've got preliminary confirmation from Daniel, Steven, Tom and me. So we have enough speakers to schedule the first presentation independently from the format we select.

I have not scheduled anything on the weekend (motivation loss), but we can go forward now.

BR, Oleg

2016-05-24 2:40 GMT+03:00 Alyssa Tong <alyt...@gmail.com>:

does it make sense to break this up into multiple vJAM sessions? 1 to 2 sessions per month

[Oleg Nenashev]

I agree with Tyler that 2 longer talks are preferable. I would also add a short talk to the end (e.g. testing).

Then I would vote for something like that:

Meetup #1. Plugin Development. Basics

* Steven - Plugin Development. Classic talk (40 min)

* Jesse (?) - Plugin Development. Pipeline (40 min)

* TBD: Oleg - Jenkins Test Harness [and Pipeline extensions?] (20 min)

Meetup #2. Plugin Development. UI

* Daniel - Stapler [and Jelly/Groovy] (40 min)

* Tom - New JavaScript-based UI development flow (40 min)

* (? Andrew/Oliver/Bobby) - Acceptance Test Harness (20 min)

Meetup #3. Jenkins contribution 101 - Unconfirmed
* (?) - Top-level community overview

* (?) - Common project infrastructure: GitHub, Pull-requests, Jenkins-on-Jenkins, etc.

* Tyler(?) - jenkins.io - Writing blogposts and documentation

Best regards,

Oleg

[Minudika Malshan]

+1

Looking forward to learn more about on Plugin development and UI

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[Oleg Nenashev]

Hi,

The event has been announced: http://www.meetup.com/Jenkins-online-meetup/events/231401509/

Thanks Alyssa!

@Jesse

BTW what date range is being discussed? I am moving in early June so I
may or may not be able to do it.

The target date for the meetup is June 14th. Does it work for you?

BR, Oleg